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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 14:30:24 GMT
For the avoidance of doubt, the proroguery is only for four days and does not cover the period when UK is due to leave.
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 14:35:16 GMT
Great work. The fascistic forces of Project Fear/Smug, selfish fucknucklery have been flat-footed, wet-legged and puce with impotent fury. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632HMQ is onside too. HMQ hasn't got the option. But you knew that. 'Cos you're smart.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 28, 2019 14:35:59 GMT
So, why do it at all, if it's not meaningful?
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 14:39:26 GMT
Hilarious coverage on the BBC at lunchtime "the markets reacted with a sharp drop against the dollar" of half a cent, followed by a ...... errrr recovery.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 14:40:32 GMT
Great work. The fascistic forces of Project Fear/Smug, selfish fucknucklery have been flat-footed, wet-legged and puce with impotent fury. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632HMQ is onside too. HMQ hasn't got the option. But you knew that. 'Cos you're smart. Of course she's got the option. By convention, she doesn't exercise it.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 28, 2019 14:45:56 GMT
If she exercised it, the monarchy would be done for.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 14:46:38 GMT
I have my reservations about the proroguing gambit but, the Remainers have been waving their tiny genitals in our faces and gloating about how they intend to defy the popular democratic decision, which they bottled three years ago.
Anyway, hahahahhahahahaha @ John Berkow.
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Post by jimboky on Aug 28, 2019 14:55:00 GMT
If she exercised it, the monarchy would be done for. it would be the first time she showed the Monarchy was relevant in something, something more then a pretty face, doubt she will though
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 14:59:34 GMT
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Post by flatandy on Aug 28, 2019 15:04:45 GMT
If she exercised it, the monarchy would be done for. it would be the first time she showed the Monarchy was relevant in something, something more then a pretty face, doubt she will though The point being that if the monarchy is more than a pretty face, then the monarchy has to be removed. If the monarch actually did any ruling, that would mean they could just tell parliament what to do, there'd be no real democracy, there'd be no constitutional control. This Queen might get away with it, but the public would know that the same conditions apply when Charles becomes king, and there's no knowing what he would do. The Queen isn't an idiot and doesn't want to take the risk of Britain finally throwing off the shackles.
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 15:08:29 GMT
HMQ hasn't got the option. But you knew that. 'Cos you're smart. Of course she's got the option. By convention, she doesn't exercise it. Oh ffs, be practical! Going against her PM would trigger a constitutional crisis at precisely the wrong time - when she needs to come out all guns blazing in defence of one of her children.
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Post by voice on Aug 28, 2019 15:16:50 GMT
Wow, desperate stuff from Bozo, he must really hate democracy to go to such lengths to knobble ours
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Post by bertruss2 on Aug 28, 2019 15:24:45 GMT
It's a weird thing The Privy Council. It's nothing like democratic. There are 700 members of it, who are appointed to give advice to Her Majesty the Queen. But it took just three of them to go to Balmoral and tell Her Majesty to shut down Parliament.The Rt Hon Jacob Rees-Mogg (Lord President), The Rt Hon Baroness Evans of Bowe Park, The Rt Hon Mark Spencer
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Post by flatandy on Aug 28, 2019 15:32:08 GMT
The more I read and think, the more I think that it's not actually bad strategy from Boris. He's created an impossible situation for himself by stating that we'd leave on Oct 31. He needs to get out of that somehow, and now he's forcing parliament to vote against him - so he's not actually seen to be making the decision.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 15:32:16 GMT
Of course she's got the option. By convention, she doesn't exercise it. Oh ffs, be practical! Going against her PM would trigger a constitutional crisis at precisely the wrong time - when she needs to come out all guns blazing in defence of one of her children. Nevertheless ....
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 15:32:54 GMT
Wow, desperate stuff from Bozo, he must really hate democracy to go to such lengths to knobble ours I think you'll find it's pre-knobbled.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 15:34:52 GMT
It's a weird thing The Privy Council. It's nothing like democratic. There are 700 members of it, who are appointed to give advice to Her Majesty the Queen. But it took just three of them to go to Balmoral and tell Her Majesty to shut down Parliament.The Rt Hon Jacob Rees-Mogg (Lord President), The Rt Hon Baroness Evans of Bowe Park, The Rt Hon Mark Spencer Great, innit? I bet she wiped a corgi's arse with Jezza's note.
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Post by voice on Aug 28, 2019 15:35:01 GMT
Well yeah, an unelected PM surrounded by a cabal of extremists doing crazy dangerous stuff nobody voted for did proceed this attack on the nation state.
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Post by bertruss2 on Aug 28, 2019 15:49:16 GMT
The more I read and think, the more I think that it's not actually bad strategy from Boris. He's created an impossible situation for himself by stating that we'd leave on Oct 31. He needs to get out of that somehow, and now he's forcing parliament to vote against him - so he's not actually seen to be making the decision. I guess Boris is going for a general election before Brexit day, 31 October. After Brexit, Brexiters don't need to vote for him. The deed is done. So, he'll be looking to be swept to triumph on a wave of Brexit frenzy, get a majority and rule for five self-glorifying years till 2024. For Boris, the only important thing is him being Prime Minister. Maybe it would be enough if the general election campaign ran into November and he got a vote of gratitude from Brexiters for services rendered. Farage has promised an electoral pact to ensure that Brexit Party members don't stand against Tories committed to Brexit. After Brexit, the Brexit Party will be finished anyway, and Farage will be hoping to be Lord Farage or Ambassador to the United States.
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 15:49:22 GMT
It's a weird thing The Privy Council. It's nothing like democratic. There are 700 members of it, who are appointed to give advice to Her Majesty the Queen. But it took just three of them to go to Balmoral and tell Her Majesty to shut down Parliament.The Rt Hon Jacob Rees-Mogg (Lord President), The Rt Hon Baroness Evans of Bowe Park, The Rt Hon Mark Spencer Love Mark Spencer's wiki entry. Being a farmer, it lists his holding as being "a former dairy farm, the business diversified into growing potatoes and vegetables and producing free-range eggs, beef, human and lamb .." Actually, I find this very easy to believe.
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