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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 8:42:18 GMT
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Post by Beachcomber on Jan 18, 2009 10:35:00 GMT
Our two children were both home births (30 odd years ago). Simply because my wife discovered that most hospital births were between 09:00am and 05:00pm - very few at night time when the consultants were home in bed.
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 13:23:19 GMT
Our two children were both home births (30 odd years ago). Simply because my wife discovered that most hospital births were between 09:00am and 05:00pm - very few at night time when the consultants were home in bed. Yes indeed BC, makes you wonder why its only just come to light. |
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Post by sushimo on Jan 18, 2009 16:57:30 GMT
I went for a home birth on mine too, even though I felt the wrath of the hospital for it. Best thing going on my 3rd. Home alone, mid November, midnight. Bit of Mozart, fire on, candles lit, midwife arrived 10 minutes before delivery, then left me 1/2 hour later.
Older kids with friends, hubby in the Med, and the third is the most laid back, calm personality of them all. Would have done it that way every time had I known.
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Post by puffin on Jan 18, 2009 17:39:19 GMT
While I don't agree with induced births soley for convenience there are very sound medical reasons for it when it is thought that there could be complications for either the mother or the baby at the time of birth and the attendance of a specialist, in a controlled environment, is deemed to be essential.
In looking at this I do hope that they don't go too far the other way and risk the lives of mothers and babies by holding back on induction when it would be beneficial. Unfortunately a knee jerk over reaction is all too common when the media starts one of their campaigns.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 18:01:05 GMT
Puffin
I agree with you.
It's one of those issues that gets the adrenaline going.
It may be nicer to give birth at home, I'll agree, but sometimes a birth is in need of hurrying up.
Natural things are not always perfect , as we know from past days in previous centuries
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 18:45:13 GMT
This is not about home birts exactly. Women get taken into hospital here and many have a ceasaren section. Why so many need one seems more to do with convience than anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 19:02:07 GMT
Health professionals do generally know what they're doing, in my view.
If we as individuals want to get specialised and customised treatment then the health service will have to change to accommodate that.
Unless you an tell me the case history of the women in question, I can't really give even a layman's answer.
Sometimes there is a case for performing a caesarian section and sometimes not.
It's a moot point and the question of what kind of health care system we want comes into it.
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 19:06:47 GMT
Just in case you didn't read the link.
"Concerns have been raised about pregnant women being induced "unnecessarily", after a Scottish audit of 17,000 births.
In more than a quarter of cases, researchers could not find a medical or other explanation for the procedure."
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Post by voice on Jan 18, 2009 19:16:08 GMT
Leon my oldest was induced when he was over 2 weeks late and arrived at 3.20 am, and Zach my youngest was due to be induced as he was also over two weeks late when Mrs Voice went into labour at 4 am and delivered in a waterbirthing pool at 8.35.
I'm scheptical induction is to suit some timetable as its impossible even with induction to say when a birth will occure, Mrs Voice had a menbrane sweep days befor either boy was born to no effect and Leons induction was started about 5pm after a scan showed the ambiotic fluid was almost gone, sound more like the usual slagg off the NHS mischief making type of story.
Mrs Voice worked in PICU (peadiatirc intensive care unit) when we were in the UK and she got babies all time of the day and night brought in.
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 19:19:20 GMT
I didn't make the observation on this one Voice, I just posted the link.  Princess Beatrice was born 8/8/88 Thats a real lucky number to some people, or maybe convienient. (She wasn't full term) |
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Post by voice on Jan 18, 2009 19:24:40 GMT
and I was in no way slagging you off scoob, just the tennor of the story and inference induction is done for the nurses convieneince
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 19:25:17 GMT
Yes I haven't read the link and I apologise.
I will read it in a minute.
This issue is not unlike the question of whether to bin Trident.
It's of no use because we haven't needed it ....but, but we don't know that we haven't needed it because we have it?
If it is found to be policy to induce births regardless of any other indication then that isn't right.
However the main thing is to deliver pregnant women with healthy babies.
With my daughter who was my second baby I felt it was time to give birth although I just had practice pangs.
I rang the hospital and they sent an ambulance.
I felt a bit sheepish and worried they wouldn't take me but they did, even though I theoretically had two weeks to go.
At hospital they examined me and started labour with an enema[ ;D]
A little later that evening I had a beautiful 10 lb baby girl.
My point is that in life we don't know all the facts and eventualities and we rely on professionals to guide us.
If we want something more then we'll have to go over to a different system probably.
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 19:29:10 GMT
and I was in no way slagging you off scoob, just the tennor of the story and inference induction is done for the nurses convieneince Oh, I know that Voice, hence the wink emotie.  Altough I used the wrong one.  These emoties are to damn small. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 20:27:40 GMT
I've read the link and it mostly sounds like common sense.
However the issue is about individuals in my view.
We are all slightly different and have different experiences.
Inducing labour is not a new thing.
Women have been taking senna tea for many years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 20:53:33 GMT
I do have one query though, only slightly relevant. That is why new mothers are told to test the baby's bath water with the elbow. I can't speak for others, but my elbows are all rough and gnarly most of the time.
I must be a bit of a peasant I suppose.
That has always worried me.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 21:02:22 GMT
I could stick my elbows in a vat of acid and I don't think I'd notice |
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 21:17:33 GMT
I do have one query though, only slightly relevant. That is why new mothers are told to test the baby's bath water with the elbow. I can't speak for others, but my elbows are all rough and gnarly most of the time.
I must be a bit of a peasant I suppose.
That has always worried me. Nothing wrong with peasants. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 21:22:17 GMT
Why thankyou scooby.
[But i didn't mean I was worried about being a peasant
Peasants are the backbone of our race
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 18, 2009 21:28:14 GMT
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