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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Mar 1, 2018 8:32:35 GMT
It’s an odd logic. Services businesses by definition are frequently non necessary. With less competition if the remaining car washers decide to do a sh*t job they will just go out of business as people return to washing their cars themselves. Which is kind of my point - extra people in the economy providing good services at costs people are willing to pay mean that you, Mids, Scoobs and the rest might spend that money to get your car cleaned. The alternative is that you stay home and clean it yourself, or drive a dirty car. It's not particularly harmful but it gets money out of the economy, with the end result that the economy is smaller than it would otherwise be. And everyone eventually ends up a bit poorer. You're treating the economy as a zero sum calculation, which it's not. it's pish and tosh. If your business depends on paying shite wages to Romanians living in skips you shouldn't be in business. And it's just a variation of the beardy branson argument for washing his money offshore that "he creates jobs in the UK" Those jobs would still exist with or without him and if there is no way for those jobs to exist on a decent wage they shouldn't exist. it's curious how quick the left are to support the exploitationn of the poor if it means they don't have to fill in a form. www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-slavery-carwash/modern-slavery-seeps-through-murky-world-of-britains-car-washes-idUSKBN1D80XIModern slavery seeps through murky world of Britain's car washes
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LONDON (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Tricked into washing cars in London for 12 hours a day without pay and treated like a slave, Bogdan quit after a week - hoping to find a better job after his move to Britain from Romania.
Thousands of workers in hand car washes across Britain are believed to be modern slaves - mostly men lured from Eastern European countries such as Albania and Bulgaria with promises of paid work, housing and better job opportunities in the future.
Yet many end up trapped in debt bondage, forced to live and work in squalid and unsafe conditions, stripped of their documents and subjected to threats, abuse and violence. |
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Post by Repat Van on Mar 1, 2018 8:42:01 GMT
“Those jobs would still exist with or without him and if there is no way for those jobs to exist on a decent wage they shouldn't exist.”
This this this this.
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Post by mids on Mar 1, 2018 8:44:31 GMT
"curious how quick the left are to support the exploitationn of the poor if it means they don't have to fill in a form."
Ahahahaha!😁
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Post by nobody on Mar 1, 2018 9:04:33 GMT
Corbyn and his ilk would have everybody working for a bowl of rice a week, while they supped caviar swilled down with Champagne
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 1, 2018 9:47:02 GMT
Sorry. I can't do anything about theintelligence gap. Between your ears? |
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 1, 2018 9:53:46 GMT
After Brexit, it will be true-blue British produce only. Turnips for the poor and tripe with thimblefuls of whisky for the elite.
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Post by unclejunior on Mar 1, 2018 10:09:07 GMT
After Brexit, it will be true-blue British produce only. Turnips for the poor and tripe with thimblefuls of whisky for the elite. Here Bert have a read .....hidden away in the back pages of El Beeb, s anti-British news... www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43226097If the EU CAR manufacturers want to play hardball the Japs will have a field day ...!! |
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 1, 2018 10:36:22 GMT
The UK car industry is almost entirely foreign-owned. There has been a huge drop in investment since the Referendum.
investment in the UK auto industry has plunged since the EU referendum, from £2.5bn in 2015 to £1.1bn last year (Financial Times)
To keep car assembly plants in the UK, the government will have to hand over sweeteners (out of taxpayers' money, obviously)
The government pledged a £21.3m grant towards retooling Toyota’s Burnaston plant last year (Financial Times)
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Post by unclejunior on Mar 1, 2018 10:43:54 GMT
f the EU CAR manufacturers want to play hardball the Japs will have a field day ...!!
The UK car industry is almost entirely foreign-owned. There has been a huge drop in investment since the Referendum.
investment in the UK auto industry has plunged since the EU referendum, from £2.5bn in 2015 to £1.1bn last year (Financial Times)
HAHAHA It s almost stopped ...only £1.1 billion last year !!
The government pledged a £21.3m grant towards retooling Toyota’s Burnaston plant last year (Financial Times
Any Gov would give its eye teeth to pay such a paltry sum for some infrastructure on the back of a nearly £3 billion investment in the UK.
I think that we can all agree that an investmentof that magnitude shows a long-term commitment to the UK ...?
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Post by unclejunior on Mar 1, 2018 10:53:07 GMT
JRM on John Major speech in the House yesterday.... youtu.be/Tm293SlngzkJM tendentious opinion put firmly to bed... |
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 1, 2018 10:53:23 GMT
The way cars are assembled shows UK dependence on the rest of Europe. The just-in-time method means that the components shuttle back and forth across the Channel. If tariffs have to be paid and there are customs' inspections slowing up the process, car prices will rise and/or the British government will be shelling out plenty of money and making tax concessions to keep the car-makers (nearly all foreign) in the UK long-term.
If there is just one anecdote that succinctly sums up the problems that Brexit and the threat of tariffs pose to the UK car industry, it is this: the story behind the crankshaft used in the BMW Mini, which crosses the Channel three times in a 2,000-mile journey before the finished car rolls off the production line.
A cast of the raw crankshaft – the part of the car that translates the movement of the pistons into the rotational motion required to move the vehicle – is made by a supplier based in France.
From there it is shipped to BMW’s Hams Hall plant in Warwickshire, where it is drilled and milled into shape. When that job is complete, each crankshaft is then sent back across the Channel to Munich, where it inserted into the engine.
From Munich, it is back to the Mini plant in Oxford, where the engine is then “married” with the car.
If the car is to be sold on the continent then the crankshaft, inside the finished motor, will cross the Channel for a fourth time. (The Guardian)
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Post by unclejunior on Mar 1, 2018 10:57:15 GMT
Bert ...have a guess at where BMW motor Company is from ...??
I give you three guesses?
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Post by Repat Van on Mar 1, 2018 10:59:21 GMT
I wonder if one day, this century, Bert will grasp that having concerns about some of the impacts of the EU open border approach does not mean you’re completely opposed to immigration, foreigners, foreign imports etc.
Or is it just wishful thinking on my part...
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Post by nobody on Mar 1, 2018 12:15:28 GMT
The UK car industry is almost entirely foreign-owned. There has been a huge drop in investment since the Referendum. investment in the UK auto industry has plunged since the EU referendum, from £2.5bn in 2015 to £1.1bn last year (Financial Times)
To keep car assembly plants in the UK, the government will have to hand over sweeteners (out of taxpayers' money, obviously) The government pledged a £21.3m grant towards retooling Toyota’s Burnaston plant last year (Financial Times)The UK had a very good car industry, it was largely due to the unions, and particularly “Red Robbo” who fcuked it up |
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 1, 2018 14:12:56 GMT
Your gap is showing. Paying over the odds to give sweeteners to the foreign-owned 'UK' car industry does not show "you're completely opposed" to foreigners. It shows you are idiotic to exchange the friction-free trade relationship inside the EU for a bureaucratic, expensive and inefficient situation outside it. Exchanging the efficient, profitable freedom to let market forces match workers with jobs for a red-tape, government-imposed quota system, enforced by legions of border guards and immigration police is proof of idiocy.
It's also a kick in the teeth to the proportionately far greater number of Brits who live, work and study in other EU countries than the other way round.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 1, 2018 14:36:39 GMT
The UK had a very good car industry, it was largely due to the unions, and particularly “Red Robbo” who fcuked it up Hahahahahahaha! |
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Post by nobody on Mar 1, 2018 14:45:33 GMT
The UK had a very good car industry, it was largely due to the unions, and particularly “Red Robbo” who fcuked it up Hahahahahahaha! They had assistance, from a Labour Govt. who nationalised it. |
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Post by flatandy on Mar 1, 2018 15:01:50 GMT
The Austin Allegro and Morris Marina and Ford Cortina were introduced under Tory Govts. (Admittedly, the Maxi and Princess were introduced under Labour).
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Post by mids on Mar 1, 2018 15:28:45 GMT
Margaret Thatcher invented the Rolls Royce.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 1, 2018 15:52:49 GMT
She invented the soft-serve suspension on the Austin Montego, more like.
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