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Post by Repat Van on Aug 29, 2017 23:16:26 GMT
I'm interested where you have read people saying it's ok to use violence against people you disagree with? I don't think protestors should make their point using violence. But I can't find it in me to be up in arms about violence used against Nazis. but if it's the Nazis doing it you can? Obviously. Seeing as the Nazis tend to use their violence against anybody they deem to be sub-human. I have an issue with that kind of thing.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 29, 2017 23:20:12 GMT
Look Rev, because I know nuanced thought is not something you can deal with, I view it the same way I view the death penalty.
Wrong under all circumstances. However am I going to be up in arms and outraged at a serial murderer facing the death penalty. *shrugs*
If you are going to do it, better that kind of person receive it than somebody receive it for stealing.
Same with being on the receiving end of a violent protestor. I don't think protestors should use violence (against people.) But if they are going to use it against Nazis, *shrugs*.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 29, 2017 23:27:41 GMT
The law should apply equally to everyone.
My concern, though, is not impartial. And generally, I personally care less about what happens to Nazis than to non-Nazis (all other things being equal).
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 3:15:21 GMT
It amuses me how the pro-war crowd are suddenly pacifists. I don't think protestors should make their point using violence. But I can't find it in me to be up in arms about violence used against Nazis. It's not like it hasn't been done before... In other words, all right-wingers are Nazis? How do you know the people being attacked in the video are Nazis? No all Nazis are Nazis.
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Post by voice on Aug 30, 2017 4:50:33 GMT
Even more shocking pictures of anti facists and anti Nazis violence, I'm sure uj and Rick will full of concern it was allowed to happen.
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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2017 7:48:45 GMT
It really is pathetic when people equate a few hundred saddoes in their mum's basement with an actual murderous Nazi state and war machine. If these people were genuinely concerned about fascism, their first priority would be yer actual Islamofascism, who do actually kill people in large numbers.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Aug 30, 2017 7:51:42 GMT
Personally, I abhor violence as much as the next man, but if we are going to volunteer people to be beaten to a pulp could it be ramblers with walking poles?
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Post by reverend on Aug 30, 2017 8:11:30 GMT
I don't think protestors should make their point using violence. But I can't find it in me to be up in arms about violence used against Nazis. but if it's the Nazis doing it you can? Obviously. Seeing as the Nazis tend to use their violence against anybody they deem to be sub-human. I have an issue with that kind of thing. Just like the far left then? www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqKdKnTcK-Y
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Post by reverend on Aug 30, 2017 8:24:27 GMT
The law should apply equally to everyone. My concern, though, is not impartial. And generally, I personally care less about what happens to Nazis than to non-Nazis (all other things being equal). But Communists and Marxists are acceptable, despite the damage they wrought in the last century dwarfing the criminal Nazis? Here's the huge hole in your reason though, who gets to decide who's a Nazi? Because to the likes of Antifa etc, ANYONE who does not adhere to their viewpoint is a Nazi, anyone at all, if you stand up for freedom of speech, your a Nazi, if you don't adhere to the white privilege rubbish your a Nazi, if you don't agree with racism to white people your a Nazi! And people like you go along with it unquestioning and happy as you can virtue signal in your peer group by pretending it's only Nazis being attacked, when in reality the fascists of antifa and any means necessary etc are Marxist extremists, no better than the people they hate! ALL these cnuts need to be opposed and denounced , not encouraged, society did a pretty good job of marginalising the far right by giving them a platform and letting them show the world what cnuts they were, now the left wants to control everything and has emboldened these people by giving them victim status, which is the greatest status of all these days, the far left are causing this mess by being as divisive as the far right, it's got to stop!
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Post by reverend on Aug 30, 2017 8:27:53 GMT
It amuses me how the pro-war crowd are suddenly pacifists. I don't think protestors should make their point using violence. But I can't find it in me to be up in arms about violence used against Nazis. It's not like it hasn't been done before... In other words, all right-wingers are Nazis? How do you know the people being attacked in the video are Nazis? It's simpler than that they live on the left pole, everywhere they look is to the right, their hate is acceptable, their violence is justice , their prejudice is virtuous, they're in good company, every terrorist and thug in history though the same way! www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1nq3oPjpdwwww.youtube.com/watch?v=2MhOsBU0O_w
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 9:03:59 GMT
Some people are cunts shockah.
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Post by Whiterum on Aug 30, 2017 9:09:10 GMT
Reference to the first line in the OP "Their faces hidden behind black bandannas and hoodies" sounds like all the riots we've had in the UK over the years, what Ootlg, said, "Some people are cunts shockah".
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 20:53:43 GMT
Even more shocking pictures of anti facists and anti Nazis violence, I'm sure uj and Rick will full of concern it was allowed to happen.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 20:55:01 GMT
The law should apply equally to everyone. My concern, though, is not impartial. And generally, I personally care less about what happens to Nazis than to non-Nazis (all other things being equal). But Communists and Marxists are acceptable, despite the damage they wrought in the last century dwarfing the criminal Nazis? Here's the huge hole in your reason though, who gets to decide who's a Nazi? Because to the likes of Antifa etc, ANYONE who does not adhere to their viewpoint is a Nazi, anyone at all, if you stand up for freedom of speech, your a Nazi, if you don't adhere to the white privilege rubbish your a Nazi, if you don't agree with racism to white people your a Nazi! And people like you go along with it unquestioning and happy as you can virtue signal in your peer group by pretending it's only Nazis being attacked, when in reality the fascists of antifa and any means necessary etc are Marxist extremists, no better than the people they hate! ALL these cnuts need to be opposed and denounced , not encouraged, society did a pretty good job of marginalising the far right by giving them a platform and letting them show the world what cnuts they were, now the left wants to control everything and has emboldened these people by giving them victim status, which is the greatest status of all these days, the far left are causing this mess by being as divisive as the far right, it's got to stop! Yes Communists and Marxists are still far more acceptable than Neo Nazis. Not based on the 30s/40s you blithering idiot but their beliefs now. I'm also not sure where the hole in Fandy's reasoning is about "who gets to decide who's a Nazi". A Nazi is a Nazi. It's like asking "who gets to decide who is a left-winger". Or "who gets to decide who is a Labour supporter."
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 20:57:41 GMT
In other words, all right-wingers are Nazis? How do you know the people being attacked in the video are Nazis? It's simpler than that they live on the left pole, everywhere they look is to the right, their hate is acceptable, their violence is justice , their prejudice is virtuous, they're in good company, every terrorist and thug in history though the same way! www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1nq3oPjpdwwww.youtube.com/watch?v=2MhOsBU0O_wI think all right-wingers are Nazis? I hadn't thought I did but thanks for mansplaining my thoughts to me.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 20:58:16 GMT
Personally, I abhor violence as much as the next man, but if we are going to volunteer people to be beaten to a pulp could it be ramblers with walking poles? After Nazis and people who walk while texting.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 20:59:08 GMT
It really is pathetic when people equate a few hundred saddoes in their mum's basement with an actual murderous Nazi state and war machine. If these people were genuinely concerned about fascism, their first priority would be yer actual Islamofascism, who do actually kill people in large numbers. Is this this thread's first example of whataboutery or did I miss it?
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 21:00:17 GMT
Obviously. Seeing as the Nazis tend to use their violence against anybody they deem to be sub-human. I have an issue with that kind of thing. Just like the far left then? www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqKdKnTcK-YWhat groups do the "far left" view as sub-human? And why is this whataboutery relevant?
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Post by Gort on Aug 30, 2017 22:31:46 GMT
I think all right-wingers are Nazis? I hadn't thought I did but thanks for mansplaining my thoughts to me. I think all Left wingers are fascists.. They perpetrate and encourage more violence than your so called nazis.. They got violent over Brexit the get violent over anything now,, yip Lefties and liberals,, the new fascist regime. The people I would like to see getting their cunts kicked in are Leftist fascists and Islamists.. they are of the same ilk, violent trouble makers,, basic classless scum..
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2017 23:05:20 GMT
I think all right-wingers are Nazis? I hadn't thought I did but thanks for mansplaining my thoughts to me. I think all Left wingers are fascists.. They perpetrate and encourage more violence than your so called nazis.. They got violent over Brexit the get violent over anything now,, yip Lefties and liberals,, the new fascist regime. The people I would like to see getting their cunts kicked in are Leftist fascists and Islamists.. they are of the same ilk, violent trouble makers,, basic classless scum.. Ok.
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