It's Come To This

[perrykneeham]

Which they are not especially. Their transpiration rates are lower than acacia.

[flatandy]

They are impractically thirsty for lining the streets in Southern California.

[perrykneeham]

And you want to replace them with ....?

[flatandy]

Acacias?

[perrykneeham]

Mangroves, perhaps?

[flatandy]

Valley Oak, Palos Verdes, Gingko, California Sycamore, Mesquite, Jacaranda, Cedar, Bottlebrush, Cypress, etc.... maybe Persimmon and Pomegranate and Olive...

[mids]

Get fake plastic trees.

[perrykneeham]

Jul 7, 2019 20:17:59 GMT flatandy said:

Valley Oak, Palos Verdes, Gingko, California Sycamore, Mesquite, Jacaranda, Cedar, Bottlebrush, Cypress, etc.... maybe Persimmon and Pomegranate and Olive...

All got better transpiration rates?

[flatandy]

I don't know. You tell me what the transpiration rate for each varietal of each of these trees is, compared with the common eucalypts that are grown in southern California's cities.

People who seem to know what they're talking about seem to think that these trees make more sense that eucalyptus. If you wish to dispute that, I'd like clear evidence.

And not just on transpiration rates, but also on stability, on canopy cover, foliage area, drought tolerance, root spread, etc... etc...

[perrykneeham]

Screeeeereerreeerraaach!

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The Great Eucalyptus Debate The Bay Area is deadlocked in a battle over whether its non-native blue gum trees should be felled or protected.

There yuh go...

These beasts are native to Oz where they survive on poor soil and minimal water, not growing to a great height: cut them down or burn them and they come back. But, plant them in an area with rich soil and water and they become overgrown monsters. With shallow roots. A bit of rain to soften the earth, and then wind, and down they come.

One of their main uses is medicinal, which is why - in voice's area - they are known as 'woo' trees.

[perrykneeham]

Does California have rich soils throughout?

[flatandy]

So you don't have evidence that eucalyptus is better for urban southern California than the trees recommended by local experts, Baloo? Other than "Screeeeereerreeerraaach!", that is. Which doesn't seem like a compelling argument.

[perrykneeham]

Didn't say better, just challenged you on why you think they're worse. Job done.

[Deleted]

Why challenge?

[perrykneeham]

Fun.

[Deleted]

My sides etc..

The cost of removing those huge trees in suburban California would be prohibitive. Each one would have to be lopped from the top, each section being winched down.

[perrykneeham]

Or just wait for a slight breeze, eh?

[flatandy]

[flatandy]