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Post by voice on Aug 1, 2019 19:46:11 GMT
Obviously you're only hearing what you expect to hear, but I've seen a lot of them make some some very cogent arguments on health, poverty, imigration, and so on, sure they also point out the corruption, moral bankruptcy and yes the racism at the heart of the present administration, not that you'll see that on fox or brightbart mind
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Post by jimboky on Aug 1, 2019 19:48:29 GMT
everybody is a racist, according to AOC that includes Biden, Harris, Nancy, just about anyone who dares to disagree with her on anything, I'm sure I would be included in that group, hope so anyway
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Post by voice on Aug 1, 2019 20:26:20 GMT
Well not actually according to AOC, just the numpties who spin everything for the hard of thought who simply accept that's what she says without actually finding out what she actually says. That's the problem of living in a far right bubble Jim, reality really intrudes.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 1, 2019 20:55:52 GMT
Neither of which are free of course. Of course not. But Rev seems to think they’re “free stuff”
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 0:18:36 GMT
everybody is a racist, according to AOC that includes Biden, Harris, Nancy, just about anyone who dares to disagree with her on anything, I'm sure I would be included in that group, hope so anyway And according to the Black Congressional Caucus AOC is racist.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 0:21:11 GMT
Didn't take long for the leftie socialists to throw Obama on the trash heap of history. At the debate last night, they trashed Obama for everything from his border policies to Obamacare. Are politicians not allowed to disagree? Not if they are on the right.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 0:23:43 GMT
If injured aliens crashed their UFOs in our neighbourhood, I'd hope we'd try and get them healthy rather than just let them die. And just how would we go about doing that?
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 0:26:26 GMT
I watched some of the debate, there were two guys trying to sound reasonable which was a relief, Bernie has morphed into my uncle Colin, ranting at everything, Warren is a total loon, and they have mystic fooking meg in the running too! Is this a plot to get Trump re-elected? They had to tell Sanders to quit shouting. That is one angry guy.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 0:37:42 GMT
I don't know how the US is going to fix the healthcare thing. Maybe they need a Marshall Plan for themselves. Free Medicare for all certainly wouldn't do it. If they actually tried that, the U.S. hospital system would implode overnight. Sure, they would have their "free" healthcare, but no hospitals to go to to use it. Under Warren's Medicare for All Plan, Many Hospitals Would Be Forced to Close—Especially in Poor, Rural Areas"As former Maryland Rep. John Delaney pointed out just a few moments later, Warren's plan—which is to say Bernie Sanders' plan—would probably result in a sharp contraction in the number of hospitals." "If you go to every hospital in this country and you ask them one question," Delaney said, "which is how would it have been for you last year if every one of your bills were paid at the Medicare rate? Every single hospital administrator said they would close. And the Medicare for All bill requires payments to stay at current Medicare rates. So to some extent, we're supporting a bill that will have every hospital closing." reason.com/2019/06/27/under-warrens-medicare-for-all-plan-many-hospitals-would-be-forced-to-close-especially-in-poor-rural-areas
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 0:54:45 GMT
Harris doesn't take criticism very well. Her response to Gabbard calling her out at the debate? She's accusing Gabbard of being a Russian agent.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 1:42:49 GMT
Socialist Presidential candidate Yang at the debate called for the immediate evacuation of the U.S. population to higher ground because sea levels are rising so fast. "He was talking about how we are too late to do anything about climate change: “We need to do everything we can to start moving the climate in the right direction…”
“….but we also need to start moving our people to higher ground—"wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/01/quote-of-the-week-yangs-off-the-rails-climate-evacuation-alarm/
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Post by flatandy on Aug 2, 2019 2:00:51 GMT
I don't know how the US is going to fix the healthcare thing. Maybe they need a Marshall Plan for themselves. Free Medicare for all certainly wouldn't do it. If they actually tried that, the U.S. hospital system would implode overnight. Sure, they would have their "free" healthcare, but no hospitals to go to to use it. How come hospitals in other countries still exist? How come hospitals in Canada and Britain and Japan and Germany haven’t declared bankruptcy and vanished? What is especially inefficient about US hospitals that make them the exception? And if Medicare is so bad for American hospitals, how come they still cover it?
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Post by flatandy on Aug 2, 2019 2:04:27 GMT
If injured aliens crashed their UFOs in our neighbourhood, I'd hope we'd try and get them healthy rather than just let them die. And just how would we go about doing that? Who knows. But rather than just letting them die in the New Mexico desert, we could try and spend some effort helping them. Are you sure you want the aliens who’re on the verge of invading to think that we’re willing to let their emissaries die? Actually, there’s probably a decent short story in that plot...
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 2, 2019 6:04:52 GMT
Are politicians not allowed to disagree? Not if they are on the right. Eh? You seem surprised at politicians disagreeing and they’re not right wing politicians.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 11:25:20 GMT
And just how would we go about doing that? Who knows. But rather than just letting them die in the New Mexico desert, we could try and spend some effort helping them. Are you sure you want the aliens who’re on the verge of invading to think that we’re willing to let their emissaries die? Actually, there’s probably a decent short story in that plot... But where would we even begin to begin. A totally alien life form with a never seen before anatomy. Give it water in the desert? What if water is poisonous to them? Take them out of the blazing sun? Maybe they die when out of sunlight.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 2, 2019 11:45:01 GMT
Amazing spectacle, though. They spent more time trashing the Great Obama than they did criticizing Trump.
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Post by reverend on Aug 2, 2019 14:44:40 GMT
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Post by mids on Aug 2, 2019 15:14:37 GMT
How come the extreme, far, far left don't like Gabbard? She seems like the best of an utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly appalling bunch.
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Post by reverend on Aug 2, 2019 15:17:12 GMT
She's a Russian shill and an Assad apologist apparently, so pretty much Republican in their eyes!
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Post by voice on Aug 2, 2019 16:10:27 GMT
Not if they are on the right. Eh? You seem surprised at politicians disagreeing and they’re not right wing politicians. I think you will find Rick is correct, right wing politicians are not allowed to disagree with Trump, if they do they are attacked relentlessly and primary'd out of office pronto. So seeing the Dems disagreeing with each other and not facing political retribution must be very very strange for those in the Trump cult, that was once the Republican party.
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