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Post by flatandy on Dec 15, 2022 17:09:39 GMT
You may believe that France is a safe country, but even so it's not relevant. Of course it is. If they were genuinely refugees or seeking asykum, any safe country would do, all things being equal. Again, that they are prepared to pay large sums of money and endanger life to get to UK gives the lie to that nonsense. So, because they're willing to put their lives at risk they can't possibly be asylum seekers actually at risk, and must instead just be after some cash? That is some twisted logic. It's also irrelevant. |
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Post by flatandy on Dec 15, 2022 17:10:25 GMT
Apart from the opportunities for irresponsible posturing... Surprisingly self-aware, for you |
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Post by mids on Dec 15, 2022 17:11:38 GMT
Why don't they get the train? It's not lack of money.
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Post by mids on Dec 15, 2022 17:12:16 GMT
Actual shedloads. Living in sheds.
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Post by mids on Dec 15, 2022 17:16:07 GMT
Of course it is. If they were genuinely refugees or seeking asykum, any safe country would do, all things being equal. Again, that they are prepared to pay large sums of money and endanger life to get to UK gives the lie to that nonsense. So, because they're willing to put their lives at risk they can't possibly be asylum seekers actually at risk, I don't think they realise how dangerous it can be. One of the angry, fighting age men in the video of that rubber boat was wearing jeans and a tee shirt. I think most of them are quite clueless about the risks. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 15, 2022 17:19:48 GMT
Of course it is. If they were genuinely refugees or seeking asykum, any safe country would do, all things being equal. Again, that they are prepared to pay large sums of money and endanger life to get to UK gives the lie to that nonsense. So, because they're willing to put their lives at risk they can't possibly be asylum seekers actually at risk, and must instead just be after some cash? That is some twisted logic. It's also irrelevant. Nope. It is the logical probability, borne out by the facts. You can keep insisting it's irrelevant if you like, but it really isn’t. QED. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 15, 2022 17:22:46 GMT
So, because they're willing to put their lives at risk they can't possibly be asylum seekers actually at risk, I don't think they realise how dangerous it can be. One of the angry, fighting age men in the video of that rubber boat was wearing jeans and a tee shirt. I think most of them are quite clueless about the risks. I would be interested to discover at what point that purpose-made inflatable developed a leak. |
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Post by mids on Dec 15, 2022 17:31:03 GMT
When the BBC called them to say the rescue boats were on the way but to wait until they were actually in sight, just in case.
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 16, 2022 7:48:50 GMT
There's an almost Tom Sharpesque bitter comic inevitability about this story: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63996981"Eight people have been taken to hospital and four are in a critical condition after an incident at a concert venue in south London. Police were called to the Brixton O2 Academy at 21:35 GMT on Thursday, during a gig by afro-pop singer Asake. Officers were responding to reports of a large number of people trying to force their way into the venue. A number of people were found with injuries believed to have been caused by crushing, police said. An investigation has been launched and cordons remain in place at the venue on Stockwell Road. No arrests have been made. It was the third of three sold-out shows the Nigerian singer, sometimes known as Mr Money, had performed in Brixton. Cdr Ade Adelekan from the Metropolitan Police said the scene will be examined by specialist officers as part of an investigation which will be "as thorough and as forensic as necessary". He said: "This is an extremely upsetting incident which has left four people critically ill in hospital. My thoughts and prayers are with them and their families." The Met's directorate of professional standards will view all material, including body worn video footage from the officers at the scene, Scotland Yard said." An afro-beat performance basically gets steamed by a bunch of across who end up killing and injuring other as well as ruining the event. The event itself has to be heavily policed and is commanded by an afro police officer. So far, so vibrant. The outcome is inevitable: the police immediately look to blame themselves. |
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Post by Repat Van on Dec 16, 2022 7:50:14 GMT
Anyway, f uck 'em. We don't need or want 10 of thousands of angry, fighting-age Albanians working in the black economy. It's odd that the far left are utterly delighted at the idea of huge numbers of low wage, untaxed, cash in hand, workers packed into garden sheds with no power. What is it about these strong, fit young Albanian men that attracts the left so much? Sigh… You have a weird obsession with “strong, fit, young men”. |
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Post by Repat Van on Dec 16, 2022 7:53:12 GMT
You may believe that France is a safe country, but even so it's not relevant. Of course it is. If they were genuinely refugees or seeking asykum, any safe country would do, all things being equal. Again, that they are prepared to pay large sums of money and endanger life to get to UK gives the lie to that nonsense. This is such a f**k**g stupid thing to say and believe. What makes somebody a genuine refugee or not is the situation they are fleeing. Not the country they choose to seek refuge in. How many Ukrainians skipped over other safe countries to choose the UK? Does that mean none of those Ukrainians are genuine refugees? Obviously people will pick the first safe country if that is the ONLY option (which is why the countries that neighbour places in turmoil always take the bulk of refugees). But having the ability to travel further and taking that opportunity does not mean you’re not genuine. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 16, 2022 7:55:16 GMT
It appears that Ade was parachuted in for representation purposes too. He's not even local cop, nor is this his specialism.
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Post by Repat Van on Dec 16, 2022 7:55:53 GMT
There's an almost Tom Sharpesque bitter comic inevitability about this story: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63996981"Eight people have been taken to hospital and four are in a critical condition after an incident at a concert venue in south London. Police were called to the Brixton O2 Academy at 21:35 GMT on Thursday, during a gig by afro-pop singer Asake. Officers were responding to reports of a large number of people trying to force their way into the venue. A number of people were found with injuries believed to have been caused by crushing, police said. An investigation has been launched and cordons remain in place at the venue on Stockwell Road. No arrests have been made. It was the third of three sold-out shows the Nigerian singer, sometimes known as Mr Money, had performed in Brixton. Cdr Ade Adelekan from the Metropolitan Police said the scene will be examined by specialist officers as part of an investigation which will be "as thorough and as forensic as necessary". He said: "This is an extremely upsetting incident which has left four people critically ill in hospital. My thoughts and prayers are with them and their families." The Met's directorate of professional standards will view all material, including body worn video footage from the officers at the scene, Scotland Yard said." An afro-beat performance basically gets steamed by a bunch of across who end up killing and injuring other as well as ruining the event. The event itself has to be heavily policed and is commanded by an afro police officer. So far, so vibrant. The outcome is inevitable: the police immediately look to blame themselves. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 16, 2022 7:57:44 GMT
Of course it is. If they were genuinely refugees or seeking asykum, any safe country would do, all things being equal. Again, that they are prepared to pay large sums of money and endanger life to get to UK gives the lie to that nonsense. This is such a f**k**g stupid thing to say and believe. What makes somebody a genuine refugee or not is the situation they are fleeing. Not the country they choose to seek refuge in. How many Ukrainians skipped over other safe countries to choose the UK? Does that mean none of those Ukrainians are genuine refugees? Obviously people will pick the first safe country if that is the ONLY option (which is why the countries that neighbour places in turmoil always take the bulk of refugees). But having the ability to travel further and taking that opportunity does not mean you’re not genuine. It certainly throws your claim into doubt. Again, it's observable, so all your tantrum-throwing is in vain. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 16, 2022 7:58:41 GMT
Refugee tourism.
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Post by mids on Dec 16, 2022 8:02:38 GMT
Of course it is. If they were genuinely refugees or seeking asykum, any safe country would do, all things being equal. Again, that they are prepared to pay large sums of money and endanger life to get to UK gives the lie to that nonsense. This is such a f**k**g stupid thing to say and believe. What makes somebody a genuine refugee or not is the situation they are fleeing. Not the country they choose to seek refuge in. How many Ukrainians skipped over other safe countries to choose the UK? Does that mean none of those Ukrainians are genuine refugees? Obviously people will pick the first safe country if that is the ONLY option (which is why the countries that neighbour places in turmoil always take the bulk of refugees). But having the ability to travel further and taking that opportunity does not mean you’re not genuine. Ukrainian refugees are genuine, brilliant and welcome. |
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Post by Repat Van on Dec 16, 2022 8:02:57 GMT
This is such a f**k**g stupid thing to say and believe. What makes somebody a genuine refugee or not is the situation they are fleeing. Not the country they choose to seek refuge in. How many Ukrainians skipped over other safe countries to choose the UK? Does that mean none of those Ukrainians are genuine refugees? Obviously people will pick the first safe country if that is the ONLY option (which is why the countries that neighbour places in turmoil always take the bulk of refugees). But having the ability to travel further and taking that opportunity does not mean you’re not genuine. Ukrainian refugees are genuine, brilliant and welcome. Racist. |
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Post by Repat Van on Dec 16, 2022 8:04:11 GMT
This is such a f**k**g stupid thing to say and believe. What makes somebody a genuine refugee or not is the situation they are fleeing. Not the country they choose to seek refuge in. How many Ukrainians skipped over other safe countries to choose the UK? Does that mean none of those Ukrainians are genuine refugees? Obviously people will pick the first safe country if that is the ONLY option (which is why the countries that neighbour places in turmoil always take the bulk of refugees). But having the ability to travel further and taking that opportunity does not mean you’re not genuine. It certainly throws your claim into doubt. Again, it's observable, so all your tantrum-throwing is in vain. It only throws someone’s “claim into doubt” if you’re an idiot. Which you are, which is why you think this. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 16, 2022 8:05:49 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 16, 2022 8:06:54 GMT
It certainly throws your claim into doubt. Again, it's observable, so all your tantrum-throwing is in vain. " " |
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