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Post by mids on Jul 15, 2019 6:29:31 GMT
"Speaking to the BBC".
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 6:37:13 GMT
"The data shows that the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience the highest levels of serious crime among youngsters." That's stupid and nonsensical? Or is it this bit: "Speaking to the BBC, Mr Khan said: "There are still some who say that to acknowledge this link between poverty, deprivation and crime is somehow to excuse criminality and to let the criminals off the hook. I say this is dangerous rubbish." Are all poor areas riven with knife crime like we see in the murderous mullah's mayhem manor? Everywhere? No, they are not. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 6:41:13 GMT
I believe that his current lair is in Terry Wogan house. There's way to much natural light at City Hall and the smell of garlic from Borough Market ..... |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 15, 2019 6:42:03 GMT
"The data shows that the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience the highest levels of serious crime among youngsters." That's stupid and nonsensical? Or is it this bit: "Speaking to the BBC, Mr Khan said: "There are still some who say that to acknowledge this link between poverty, deprivation and crime is somehow to excuse criminality and to let the criminals off the hook. I say this is dangerous rubbish." Are all poor areas riven with knife crime like we see in the murderous mullah's mayhem manor? Everywhere? No, they are not. But he didn't say all poor areas though did he? He said the "poorest areas of London are most likely to experience highest levels of serious crime." Are you saying the data does not support that? Also across the UK does the data not support that? I mean Khan himself has reached out to Glaswegian task forces to see how they turned their violent crime rates round and from what I have seen it seems, similarly, that the areas most impacted there were also poorer areas. Or is it your assertion that wealthy, middle class areas have identical serious crime rates (amongst youngsters) as poorer suburbs? This was rather interesting too: "Other official statistics, such as rates of adolescent mental health, teenage pregnancies and domestic abuse, also reveal a correlation between serious youth violence and the poorest areas of London." Did you read what he said - or was it just the brown man (a MUSLIM to boot) speaking that annoyed you? |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 15, 2019 6:59:58 GMT
""It's time for the government to acknowledge that this is a national problem that requires an urgent national solution. No more scratching around the edges. We need a proper national strategy," said Mr Khan."
They always say don't reinvent the wheel. Just go to the areas of the UK that had similar issues and turned it around.
And copy them.
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Post by mids on Jul 15, 2019 7:11:39 GMT
Exactly. Like Scotland - increased sentences and vastly increased stop and search.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 7:22:26 GMT
Are all poor areas riven with knife crime like we see in the murderous mullah's mayhem manor? Everywhere? No, they are not. But he didn't say all poor areas though did he? He said the "poorest areas of London are most likely to experience highest levels of serious crime." Are you saying the data does not support that? Also across the UK does the data not support that? I mean Khan himself has reached out to Glaswegian task forces to see how they turned their violent crime rates round and from what I have seen it seems, similarly, that the areas most impacted there were also poorer areas. Or is it your assertion that wealthy, middle class areas have identical serious crime rates (amongst youngsters) as poorer suburbs? This was rather interesting too: "Other official statistics, such as rates of adolescent mental health, teenage pregnancies and domestic abuse, also reveal a correlation between serious youth violence and the poorest areas of London." Did you read what he said - or was it just the brown man (a MUSLIM to boot) speaking that annoyed you? Gibberish. Killer has clearly linked knifiness with poverty. It says exactly that in the headline. Your Pamela Stevenson skit makes no sense whatsoever, except as a knee-jerk defence of the indefensible. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 15, 2019 8:44:37 GMT
Exactly. Like Scotland - increased sentences and vastly increased stop and search. Well it wasn't that simplistic though was it? You cannot just hold onto the bits you like - and completely ignore the bits you don't... They didn’t abandon traditional policing. Shortly after launching the VRU, police ratcheted up stop-and-search and successfully campaigned for legislation that increased the maximum sentences for carrying a knife. But increasingly, they emphasized the interruption and prevention of violent behavior. They are intervening in hospitals, working with partners in schools and helping former offenders get back to work.www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/glasgow-was-once-the-murder-capital-of-europe-now-its-a-model-for-cutting-crime/2018/10/27/0b167e68-6e02-4795-92f8-adb1020b7434_story.html?utm_term=.7f27ef816d0dI know you like the stick alone, but there is no evidence without a carrot and stick working in accordance that they would have been able to shift their reputation as Europe's murder capital. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 15, 2019 8:48:46 GMT
But he didn't say all poor areas though did he? He said the "poorest areas of London are most likely to experience highest levels of serious crime." Are you saying the data does not support that? Also across the UK does the data not support that? I mean Khan himself has reached out to Glaswegian task forces to see how they turned their violent crime rates round and from what I have seen it seems, similarly, that the areas most impacted there were also poorer areas. Or is it your assertion that wealthy, middle class areas have identical serious crime rates (amongst youngsters) as poorer suburbs? This was rather interesting too: "Other official statistics, such as rates of adolescent mental health, teenage pregnancies and domestic abuse, also reveal a correlation between serious youth violence and the poorest areas of London." Did you read what he said - or was it just the brown man (a MUSLIM to boot) speaking that annoyed you? Gibberish. Killer has clearly linked knifiness with poverty. It says exactly that in the headline. Your Pamela Stevenson skit makes no sense whatsoever, except as a knee-jerk defence of the indefensible. Are you trolling again or do you genuinely not understand how data linkages work? Like really that stupid to think that stating "the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience the highest levels of serious crime" is identical to saying "all poor areas experience serious crime. Just checking you actually cannot tell the difference between that statement and think a comment on averages must be true for the whole? Because I know you hate the word "troll" but if you aren't doing that that would just mean you are actually that breathtakingly stupid? |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 8:49:23 GMT
The carrot's been stolen and used to cut cocaine.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 15, 2019 8:50:12 GMT
But in summary is it your stance that:
" the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience highest levels of serious crime"
is incorrect?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 8:50:21 GMT
Gibberish. Killer has clearly linked knifiness with poverty. It says exactly that in the headline. Your Pamela Stevenson skit makes no sense whatsoever, except as a knee-jerk defence of the indefensible. Are you trolling again or do you genuinely not understand how data linkages work? Like really that stupid to think that stating "the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience the highest levels of serious crime" is identical to saying "all poor areas experience serious crime. Just checking you actually cannot tell the difference between that statement and think a comment on averages must be true for the whole? Because I know you hate the word "troll" but if you aren't doing that that would just mean you are actually that breathtakingly stupid? You seem to be arguing against yourself again love. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 8:50:44 GMT
But in summary is it your stance that: " the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience highest levels of serious crime" is incorrect? No. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 15, 2019 8:51:22 GMT
Are you trolling again or do you genuinely not understand how data linkages work? Like really that stupid to think that stating "the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience the highest levels of serious crime" is identical to saying "all poor areas experience serious crime. Just checking you actually cannot tell the difference between that statement and think a comment on averages must be true for the whole? Because I know you hate the word "troll" but if you aren't doing that that would just mean you are actually that breathtakingly stupid? You seem to be arguing against yourself again love. Ah - so it's trolling. We're done here. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 15, 2019 8:53:43 GMT
But in summary is it your stance that: " the poorest areas of London are most likely to experience highest levels of serious crime" is incorrect? No. So not incorrect. Just "stupid" and "nonsensical"... |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 8:55:47 GMT
You are, yes.
As usual, you jumped in, gobbed off and then realised that you didn't actually have a point to make. So, after several attempts to make a different argument, you drop the T-bomb and slink off, sucking your teeth no doubt.
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Post by mids on Jul 15, 2019 9:22:47 GMT
"data linkages"
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Post by mids on Jul 15, 2019 9:23:38 GMT
I've often thought that I'm just one game of table tennis away from stabbing someone
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2019 9:41:59 GMT
Hahaha! Yeah, that made me smile too. Silly cow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 10:17:07 GMT
"table tennis"
<snigger>
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