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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 7:10:08 GMT
Long time ago Avi. Most of whom you often speak are pushing up the daisies.
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 7, 2019 7:25:51 GMT
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Post by bertruss2 on Apr 7, 2019 7:33:30 GMT
Avi's confused about his imaginary god. His story keeps changing. But his real god is the State of Israel. That explains his demands that 'our soldier' and 'our P.M' should be given maximum publicity. As servants of the Holy State of Israel, Netanyahu and the IDF must be praised. Even Putin is one of the righteous when Russia stages a full color military (ceremony?) for servants of the great, god the State of Israel.
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Post by avieder on Apr 7, 2019 8:51:59 GMT
Long time ago Avi. Most of whom you often speak are pushing up the daisies. So, who are those on this board that hate my guts?
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Post by avieder on Apr 7, 2019 9:06:16 GMT
Avi's confused about his imaginary god. His story keeps changing. But his real god is the State of Israel. That explains his demands that 'our soldier' and 'our P.M' should be given maximum publicity. As servants of the Holy State of Israel, Netanyahu and the IDF must be praised. Even Putin is one of the righteous when Russia stages a full color military (ceremony?) for servants of the great, god the State of Israel. Here is another manifestation of your twisted perception of the Devine. Indeed the people of Israel, the Torah of Israel and the land of Israel are one. Those that realise that are to be praised.
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Post by bertruss2 on Apr 7, 2019 10:35:52 GMT
Which sect of Judaism do you belong to? It would help in following the twists and turns of your theology if you were upfront about your religious identity. Chabadism, I would guess.
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 7, 2019 11:18:51 GMT
Dunno why it bothers you so much. Who people pray to or sleep with is nobody else's business really.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 11:45:13 GMT
Long time ago Avi. Most of whom you often speak are pushing up the daisies. So, who are those on this board that hate my guts? No-one here. This is an impersonal site. Sure, we throw insults about but that's part of the game. Stop being paranoid.
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Post by bertruss2 on Apr 7, 2019 12:06:47 GMT
It's not Avi's guts but his queer mind that draws attention. Not that the religious brain is an unusual phenomenon. It crops up all the times in various guises. The Sultan of Brunei is hitting the headlines for his devotion to G-d's will at the moment. He's quite the Old Testament fanboy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 12:08:56 GMT
The Sultan's got a thing about manhole inspectors.
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Post by avieder on Apr 7, 2019 13:47:22 GMT
Which sect of Judaism do you belong to? It would help in following the twists and turns of your theology if you were upfront about your religious identity. Chabadism, I would guess. No, I know not any section of Jews who do not believe in that triple unity. True that some put the emphasis on any one of the three. Like: Torah - mainly the Ultra Orthodox. people - like indeed Chabad. land - like the more traditional. But none negates the other two. Most Jews just hold a general view that that is what we are like, combining it all with our history both personal and national.
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Post by avieder on Apr 7, 2019 14:00:38 GMT
So, who are those on this board that hate my guts? No-one here. This is an impersonal site. Sure, we throw insults about but that's part of the game. Stop being paranoid. So, who were those who are not with us anymore?
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 7, 2019 20:20:51 GMT
You'll need to do better than that.
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Post by bertruss2 on Apr 7, 2019 22:31:17 GMT
That would be the British way to look at it. Secularism has changed the way we think of religion -- very recently in historical terms. But, even in Britain, religion is a part of the political power struggle. I'm thinking of the pro-Israel campaign, lightly disguised as a campaign against anti-semitism, which is constantly trying to force Jeremy Corbyn out of the leadership of the Labour Party, because of his sympathy with the Palestinian cause.
In the USA, religion is a big deal, as we know. In relation to Israel, it's the tens of millions of Christian evangelical Zionists whose votes help to ensure continued economic, military and political support for Israel.
The Jewish state keeps millions of Arabs in concentration camps.This is based on religion. The various factions in Israel are in a political power struggle, with ultra-religious, moderately religious and non-religious Jews competing for seats in the Knesset. Secular Jews are about half the population.
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Post by avieder on Apr 7, 2019 22:44:58 GMT
Dunno why it bothers you so much. Who people pray to or sleep with is nobody else's business really. Problem being, avi, will continue to use his religion in debates, so why not tell him to keep his religion to himself if it's nobody else's business but his own. When the debate is about religion or the root of ethics, yes, my religion is the place I talk from. But any other religious person will have similar debating points. Be it Muslim, Christian, Hindu, whatever. Were we created for a purpose or are we nothing but a random accident of molecules that has gone through some evolutionary process.
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Post by bertruss2 on Apr 7, 2019 23:56:10 GMT
The debating points between Muslim and Jew are bombs and bullets and the walls and watchtowers of the concentration camps where the Jewish state confines millions of Arabs.
Religions promote tribal ethics. And sectarianism promotes conflicts, as is very obvious from events in the Middle East. Human rights and obligations are universal and apply to everyone, without discrimination on grounds of religion, ethnicity or culture.
Objects are created for a purpose. Humans have purposes and create objects that serve these purposes.
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Post by avieder on Apr 8, 2019 5:23:16 GMT
That would be the British way to look at it. Secularism has changed the way we think of religion -- very recently in historical terms. But, even in Britain, religion is a part of the political power struggle. I'm thinking of the pro-Israel campaign, lightly disguised as a campaign against anti-semitism, which is constantly trying to force Jeremy Corbyn out of the leadership of the Labour Party, because of his sympathy with the Palestinian cause. In the USA, religion is a big deal, as we know. In relation to Israel, it's the tens of millions of Christian evangelical Zionists whose votes help to ensure continued economic, military and political support for Israel. The Jewish state keeps millions of Arabs in concentration camps.This is based on religion. The various factions in Israel are in a political power struggle, with ultra-religious, moderately religious and non-religious Jews competing for seats in the Knesset. Secular Jews are about half the population. The Arab "refugee" camps were created by th Mandate to create a source of hate to the Jewish state. Nothing more nothing less. Those are the Arabs who migrated to Palestine only during the Mandate and only after the Zionists created here a flourishing economy. They went to those camps more than 70 years ago hoping to come back and plunder after the great Arab armies will a anahilate the Jews with British help. Those camps are still maintained by the UN for the exact same purpose. Your sly reference to the Nazi death camps set up in Poland, only emphasizes Your current state of mind towards us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 6:28:29 GMT
"The Jewish state keeps millions of Arabs in concentration camps."
Link?
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Post by moggyonspeed on Apr 8, 2019 8:26:50 GMT
"Were we created for a purpose or are we nothing but a random accident of molecules that has gone through some evolutionary process?"
We are nothing but a random accident of molecules that has gone through some evolutionary process.
Easy. NEXT!
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Post by bertruss2 on Apr 8, 2019 9:49:59 GMT
"The Jewish state keeps millions of Arabs in concentration camps." Link? Don't you watch tv? The fence or wall you see is not an international border you know. It's the perimeter of (to take a dictionary definition of a concentration camp) a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard
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