Ladyball

[Repat Van]

Aug 29, 2023 11:08:07 GMT perrykneeham said:

Aug 29, 2023 11:06:41 GMT Repat Van said:

On a side note - based on my first and last trip to the hell hole known as “Barcelona” it would not surprise me that a lot of Spaniards think it’s ok to touch women without their permission….

So, your experience bears out my speculation? Funny, that.

I did not say you speculation was incorrect. I said it was irrelevant.

Two completely different words.

[perrykneeham]

Clearly not irrelevant.

[perrykneeham]

Aug 29, 2023 11:16:52 GMT mids said:

It's always been like that in South EU. Women used to joke about getting their bums pinched by Italians at least as far back as the 80s.

Yeah, my Mum always used to be slightly miffed if she didn't get goosed at least once on the bus in Rome.

[flatandy]

I suppose in some way it's relevant that many Spanish men are OK with assault.

It's still assault, and people should still face consequences for it.

So perhaps this is one of the ways you might finally get through the cultural barrier that it's not appropriate.

Britain used to be that way too, of course. Maybe not quite as bad, but it happened and "it was just a bit of a joke" and so on to pinch the arse or grope the tits of a junior female colleague. Britain managed to change it's calcified abusive culture to be less abusive. So it's possible.

[voice]

Things have changed in the UK for sure, but it's worth remembering the right did it only while kicking and screaming about "PC gone maaaaad". Same as things do continue to generally get better now, and the right are still balking against positive change, only now with a slightly changed mantra, these days they kick and scream against "woke", but it's essentially the same thing.

[bertruss2]

So perhaps this is one of the ways you might finally get through the cultural barrier that it's not appropriate.

Right. Reasonable discussion goes nowhere so you have to kick up a ridiculous fuss to get change.

[flatandy]

"A ridiculous fuss"?

[Repat Van]

Aug 29, 2023 18:57:02 GMT bertruss2 said:

So perhaps this is one of the ways you might finally get through the cultural barrier that it's not appropriate.

Right. Reasonable discussion goes nowhere so you have to kick up a ridiculous fuss to get change.

I love when creepy dudes out themselves.

[perrykneeham]

He's gone native.

[bertruss2]

I love when creepy dudes out themselves.

That's the spirit.

[perrykneeham]

Haha! What an utter shitshow.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66721003

"The RFEF appreciates [Vilda's] work at the head of the national team and in his functions as the head of sports for the women's teams, as well as the successes achieved during his time crowned with the recent achievement of the World Cup," said the RFEF.

"We value his impeccable personal and sporting conduct, being a key piece in the notable growth of women's football in Spain."

Brilliant.

[flatandy]

"Impeccable personal and sporting conduct". Hahaha! That's why more than entire first team of Spanish international woman footballers refused to play in his team and boycotted the world cup?

[mids]

And on and on it goes, where it will stop nobody knows.

"Jenni Hermoso has accused Spanish football federation president Luis Rubiales of sexual assault after he kissed her on the mouth at the Women’s World Cup.

The female football player has filed a legal complaint over the unsolicited kiss by Mr Rubiales, the national prosecutor’s office said on Wednesday.

With the complaint, Mr Rubiales could face criminal charges in addition to the ongoing probe by Spain’s top sport court for “serious misconduct” and an investigation by football’s world governing body FIFA.

Neither Ms Hermoso’s representatives nor Mr Rubiales were immediately available for comment."

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/06/jenni-hermoso-files-complaint-kiss-womens-world-cup/

[voice]

I guess it ends when creepy pervy men stop assuming consent is not needed if they want to do these things to women.

[mids]

"creupy peurvy meun"

[perrykneeham]

Sept 6, 2023 14:39:57 GMT voice said:

I guess it ends when creepy pervy men stop assuming consent is not needed if they want to do these things to women.

I won't presume you speak for her, but this feels like she's being pressured and railroaded into making this complaint.

[voice]

Or, more likely, she's reflected on this after all the hulabaloo has died down and wants recompense. Also having seen how utterly oblivious the bloke was to her side of things, and all the men presuming to speak for her and tell everyone she was willing and enjoyed it.

[flatandy]

What gives you that impression?

[Repat Van]

Sept 6, 2023 15:35:51 GMT perrykneeham said:

Sept 6, 2023 14:39:57 GMT voice said:

I guess it ends when creepy pervy men stop assuming consent is not needed if they want to do these things to women.

I won't presume you speak for her, but this feels like she's being pressured and railroaded into making this complaint.

Of course. Stupid women can hardly be expected to know their own minds. The feminists made her say it.

It’s not uncommon for a woman to be dwelling on a man’s inappropriate behaviour and getting angrier and angrier the more she thinks about it before making a complaint. You see this a lot with the on campus rape allegations.

I’m in women’s groups on and offline and you see women asking for advice on this kind of thing regularly.

[mids]

Only an inch or two to the left or right and nobody would have batted an eyelid.