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Post by wetkingcanute on May 8, 2021 11:53:32 GMT
I can only repeat the cartoon in this edition of Private Eye.
It shows a Labour candidate talking to two Brexit supporting people and saying:
Why won't you Racist Fascists vote Labour?
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Post by mids on May 8, 2021 11:56:32 GMT
Corbyn was rubbish. It's just that his rubbishness wasn't the reasons that are being made out by the disingenuous Labour Right. It wasn't because he was an antisemite, and it wasn't because he wasn't tritely nationalistic and flag-wavey enough. He was nationalistic and flag-wavey. Just not for Britain. |
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Post by flatandy on May 8, 2021 11:58:25 GMT
And it's true on both levels:
The racists and gammons will never vote Labour so it's weird that the Labour right seems obsessed with trying to appeal to them
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Calling all Brexit voters (and working class small town northerners) racist is immensely offensive and stupid
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Post by perrykneeham on May 8, 2021 11:58:32 GMT
Some might say that Corbyn was nationalsocialistic.
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Post by flatandy on May 8, 2021 11:59:24 GMT
Meanwhile, if Scotland had FPTP like Labour and Tories seem to think is the best voting system, the SNP would have a comically huge majority (and the Lib Dems would be the official opposition!!!!).
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Post by perrykneeham on May 8, 2021 12:01:05 GMT
You make that sound like a bad thing. If it's the democratic will of the Scots, good luck to 'em.
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Post by flatandy on May 8, 2021 13:08:17 GMT
Yeah, but it's not the will of the Scots. The SNP have under 50% of the vote and almost 90% of the fptp seats. The Tories and Labour each have three times as many votes as the Libs, yet have fewer fptp seats.
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Post by reverend on May 8, 2021 14:22:19 GMT
I can only repeat the cartoon in this edition of Private Eye. It shows a Labour candidate talking to two Brexit supporting people and saying: Why won't you Racist Fascists vote Labour? I genuinely cannot fathom how Labour think telling people your racists and you have to be ashamed of your country was going to gain them votes, the reaction to the race report from labour really pissed a lot of people off! |
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Post by flatandy on May 8, 2021 15:09:13 GMT
It's interesting that Labour's successes have come in places like Salford or Wales or with people like Andy Burnham, still pretty left-wing approaches. The failures have come in places where the focus has been on the purge of any evidence of the Corbyn years, and on trying to appeal to the gammons with flags and beer and football and no opposition to all of the Tory corruption and disasters and no actual policy.
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Post by reverend on May 8, 2021 15:17:01 GMT
South wales lives in the 1980's politically, they still spout on about thatcher and mines, labour could pickle babies in acid and they would still be elected round here, it's purely tribal!
I ask the guys who vote labour in work what labour policies they suppport and they can't even quote one, you will never get rid of labour here!
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Post by ootlg on May 8, 2021 15:29:14 GMT
It's in their genes mate. Rape of the Fair Country. I'd be the same. Like the Irish.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 8, 2021 16:45:32 GMT
Just been listening to Len McCluskey on BBC R4. He is a terrible tosser. He said they Labour need to convince people that they are on their side. No, you knob. They don't believe you because a) you've been saying pish that for decades, and, b) you say that to everyone. Just as well he's retiring, the stale fart.
Also, he said that the Conservatives won the last election on a single issue, Brexit. Horseshit. So why have they just f**k*d you even harder up the arse?
Unions. Thick, bullshitting, dinosaurs.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 8, 2021 16:46:42 GMT
Do we still have anyone here willing to defend Labour? Doesn't seem like it.
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Post by mids on May 8, 2021 16:48:38 GMT
Vote Tory.
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Post by ootlg on May 8, 2021 16:56:28 GMT
Defend Labour? Why? They're a f**k**g disgrace.
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Post by reverend on May 8, 2021 17:08:44 GMT
And it's true on both levels: The racists and gammons will never vote Labour so it's weird that the Labour right seems obsessed with trying to appeal to them and Calling all Brexit voters (and working class small town northerners) racist is immensely offensive and stupid you again ignore it was the Labour party who was investigated for racist hate crimes! The far left are just as racist as the far right fella! |
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Post by perrykneeham on May 8, 2021 19:00:20 GMT
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Post by mids on May 8, 2021 19:39:14 GMT
Let the blood-letting begin!
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Post by mids on May 8, 2021 19:53:00 GMT
Is blood-letting really the right phrase? It gets used a lot in situations like this but blood letting is an old fashioned medical procedure, letting small amounts of blood and is supposed to be a curative. Blood bathing maybe?
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Post by wetkingcanute on May 8, 2021 19:57:57 GMT
as ootlg has said before me - UK politics works best when we have a strong opposition.
Labour really needs to get their act together.
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