Talentless, charmless, rap(p)er no. 3,372,901

[ootlg]

Legalising cannabis - at least home grown - has to be a good thing. Not sure about anything else: if you legalise smack for example, it won't cut crime (as some suggest) because your average skint junkie will still have to find the cash to buy it. Free rehab programmes first, maybe, and get the message across to kids that users are losers, skanky wasters, not some charismatic pop figure.

[mids]

I wonder how much tax is taken in countries or states that legalise it? There's still an illegal infrastructure to supply it and I don't suppose the criminals want to give that up readily, given the huge profits they make. They're probably not that interested in becoming a sort of tobacconist with tight profit margins.

[flatandy]

California raised about $1bn from weed in 2020, Colorado about $400m

Even though weed is illegal in the US, being legalised in those states means they take a cut - California by weight, Colorado as a percentage of sales. The infrastructure is all sort-of-legal: theoretically the federal authorities can still prosecute as weed is still illegal federally. They don't prosecute because nobody cares and because the states want the feds to not interfere with all the lovely cash coming in. There are great big shops, there are billboards everywhere. Oddly, the one thing the weed shops aren't allowed to do is put money directly in the bank because banking is federal, so it's a pure cash business (at least, this was true a couple of years ago - it all changes fast) which has some weird consequences.

[mids]

They're probably underpaying tax if it's cash, then. How much is it? Has the price gone up?

[voice]

Canada's pot shops have to sell farmed cannabis from legit producers, the gov makes money on licensing the growers then taxing sales. I'm sure the black market still exists, but it's greatly reduced as a lot of people like the idea of clean legal supply as buying on the black market still has legal sanctions.

Decriminalization other stuff and having stuff like smack on prescription would cut the need for crime to fund their addiction. Treat it as health matter rather than a criminal justice matter

[ootlg]

On prescription - that's a very good idea. The one drawback is that some would sell their scrip to unregistered users. This goes on with opiates. Or did - I don't know about now.

[voice]

Witnessed ingest, and daily dispense, same as already happens with methadone.

[flatandy]

Oct 2, 2021 11:36:29 GMT mids said:

They're probably underpaying tax if it's cash, then. How much is it? Has the price gone up?

I've only ever bought gummies since it was legalised here and obviously they never really existed back in the day so I don't know about price difference. Not that I really enjoy it much anyway.

[flatandy]

A quick look at our local dispensary online tells me that "flower" is between $35 (novice tier) and $55 (top shelf tier) per eighth. This feels cheaper than resin used to be in Manchester in 1990, but my memory of the price back in Britain is shaky.

[happyhammerhead]

As an autobiogrpahy of my youth, 'Shaky Memories of Manchester' sounds about right.

[mids]

I seem to remember hash being about 28-30 quid a quarter in the 80s.

[voice]

back in the 80's a teenth of resin was 10 quid and a quarter was 20, acid was between 2 and 5 quid with speed 10 quid a gram, coke was a lot more as was E, or so I was told once...

[perrykneeham]

Oct 2, 2021 16:12:56 GMT happyhammerhead said:

As an autobiogrpahy of my youth, 'Shaky Memories of Manchester' sounds about right.

I thought he was Welsh.

[Marshall]

What is resin - hash?

In the shops they call buds “flower”. Like Andy said about $35-$55 an eighth. Usually much better quality than what was normally available on the black market back in the day.
And yeah, all cash because of federal banking laws but they currently have a bill in Congress to change that.

I love the fact that I got busted for smoking while in the Navy, now I get a veteran’s discount if I buy any.

[voice]

resin was this (usually) black sticky slab most pot was sold in where I grew up, rumored to have many additives from old records to old tires, but no one really know. Occationally you'd get it with brown flecks in where it was supposable mixed with smack, called tempol ball as I remember, or white flecks when they mixed coke or speed in it. Though no one really know I suspect.

The only leaf we ever saw was senti or sensimealia that we got from the Jamaicans by the bookies

[Marshall]

Interesting, another reason to legalize. At least you know what you’re getting now.

When I was a teen on the east coast the only thing we ever could get was that brown stuff with the distinct smell and thousand of seeds that you cleaned on record albums. It was collectively referred to as “Colombian”, which I’m sure was a misnomer. Probably mostly from Mexico, where it sat out in the sun a few days after being harvested.

[mids]

When I were a lad, weed was pretty rare. It was almost always resin and occasionally oil. Red Leb or rocky ( Moroccan) was the most common and usually cheapest. Paki black (that was the name) or Kashmiri were the preferred types. Nepalese temple balls and Thai sticks (some sort of grass) was the stuff of legend and nobody ever got it.

[ootlg]

I made some really strong hash cake once (stronger than I'd planned) for someone's birthday and it was shared around in a night club. Half of them ended up quaking in the chill-out room. Paki Gold Seal.

[wetkingcanute]

When I were a lad, weed was pretty rare. It was almost always resin and occasionally oil. Red Leb or rocky ( Moroccan) was the most common and usually cheapest. Paki black (that was the name) or Kashmiri were the preferred types. Nepalese temple balls and Thai sticks (some sort of grass) was the stuff of legend and nobody ever got it.

Yeah...that was Windsor and Slough - late 60s through the 70s

Nowadays Trivento Malbec - less than £6.00 a bottle at ALdi.

How did the Wedding Gig go Mids?

Did you manage to negotiate a leg over situation with any Bridesmaids?

[mids]

The gig went ok-ish thanks. I had technical difficulties that put me off my stroke. Musically that is. I haven't got to the bottom of it yet but I'm pretty sure it's the guitar, which is the last thing I'd expect to go wrong. Changed cables, amps, bypassed the pedal board and finally changed guitars which did the trick. Other than that, all good. It was a smallish wedding and an older couple, early 40s I think. I'm not even sure there were bridesmaids.