US 2020 election

[voice]

Sadly you can, about 35% are hard baked cultists who will vote for him come what may. There is an old saying "who is the bigger fool the fool himself or ones who follow him"

[Marshall]

You have a point there.

[flatandy]

To be fair, the Democratic candidate got the most votes in Florida in 2000, and it was merely legal challenges to the legitimacy of those votes that handed the election to Bush. It set the stage for the first quarter of this century where the Republicans' only electoral tactic was to try and eliminate as many votes as possible rather than try to have policies that the majority of the public would support. In fact, only once since 1988 has the Republican candidate won the most votes in a US presidential election.

[redanchor1]

I wish the damn election was over already Im sick of it.

[flatandy]

It does go on for ever. I really wish the US system was like everywhere else in the world where the process takes a few weeks.

But the lunatics are so hung up on the constitution and tradition that they couldn't possibly imagine changing it from a system that was devised back when a tiny part of the population had the vote, and they then had to send everyone on horseback to the same place to make decisions to select candidates, and then send people on horseback to inform the electorate about those candidates, and then send candidates on horseback to talk to their voters and then have everyone go on horseback to collect votes and then have people travel on horseback to deliver information about votes to the capital, and so on...

The worst part is that they keep all the nonsense timing of a quarter of the millennium ago but have added all the dreary information overload of the 24 hour news network era.

[voice]

It's funny how rick always accuses the dems of doing the stuff the reps are getting slagged off for doing, usually with no back up for who amongst the dems are saying the election results are not legitimate, as ever it's just something hes made up. The only one saying the election was/is rigged against them is Trump, the only one claiming widespread voter fraud is Trump.

Facts are the GOP know they can only win by suppressing democracy, stopping people voting and casting doubt on the legitimacy of the vote.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/21/trump-adviser-republicans-voter-suppression


And remember trumps commission on voter fraud he set up to try and explain away why he list the popular vote, the only fraud it found was by a couple of GOP candidates who's elections had to be re run due to corrupt practices.

apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud

nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

[voice]

Yet another campaign shake up, deckchairs on the Titanic comes to mind.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53426285

[Marshall]

Jul 16, 2020 14:15:34 GMT voice said:

It's funny how rick always accuses the dems of doing the stuff the reps are getting slagged off for doing

Yep:
Republican Congressman Steve Watkins has been charged with voter fraud relating to the November 2019 election, Shawnee County District Attorney Mike Kagay announced Tuesday. Watkins, who represents Kansas' 2nd district, now faces three felony charges and a misdemeanor.

Republican Congressman Steve Watkins has been charged with voter fraud relating to the November 2019 election, Shawnee County District Attorney Mike Kagay announced Tuesday. Watkins, who represents Kansas' 2nd district, now faces three felony charges and a misdemeanor. Kagay, a Republican, announced Watkins has been charged with interference with law enforcement by providing false information, voting without being qualified and unlawful advance voting, all of which are felonies.

www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-watkins-kansas-rep-charged-voter-fraud/

[flatandy]

In March? Why is this interesting?

[jimboky]

why is it interesting when Trump changes managers?

[voice]

It's a news board, we report news, emphasis on the new, this weeks Trump campaign manager was announced two days ago. The right know it looks bad having them fired before their seat even gets warm all the time, but instead of addressing anything to do with that, as ever, uts "look a squirrel, Biden got a new one as well" the fact Biden did this 4 or 5 months ago has no bearing on the revolving door of the shambolic Trump campaign.

[jimboky]

so it is only when Trump does it,,, OK, Trump is interesting, Biden isn't, Trump runs his campaign, Biden's campaign runs Biden

[voice]

Oh ffs you're not that dence jim, im sure 4 or 5 .months ago when Biden announced a new campaign lead it was widely reported, and probably posted on here. It also coincided with the end of the primary and his presumptive candidature.

All that has no bearing on Trumps latest campaign shake up. Perhaps trying to address the matter at hand instead of always shouting "squirrel "

[jimboky]

I don't understand the interest in either, I don't know or care who Biden's manager is, but knock yourself out,

[voice]

Whooosh

[mids]

I predict a Trump win.

[flatandy]

Jul 17, 2020 13:57:18 GMT jimboky said:

why is it interesting when Trump changes managers?

Trump did it this week. It's news this week. Next week nobody will know who Brad Parscale is. It's news because it suggests that the campaign needs changing.

Biden changed his campaign manager months ago. It is no longer news. It also made some sense at the time because Biden pivoted from an internal primary campaign to a full national campaign, so the strategies needed were different.

It's not clear that Parscale's removal is timed to such an obvious change in the race.

[voice]

Jul 17, 2020 15:11:30 GMT mids said:

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[mids]

I've been observing that someone called Kayleigh McEnany has been utterly, utterly destroying the extreme far left day after day after day. Of course, anyone who criticises her is deeply, deeply, deeply misogynistic.

[voice]

I've found myself almost feeling sorry for her recently, shes got a thankless task having to constantly "clarify" the latest nonsensical utterance from her mentally failing boss.