US 2020 election

[perrykneeham]

And?

[wetkingcanute]

and Tom Petty's estate are trying to stop him using the track 'I Won't Back Down.'

The Jam tried to stop Cameron from using 'Eton Rifles'

If nothing else - it's all good fun.

The thing is Trump has absolutely no idea of the meaning of any of the songs - being as he is - completely un self aware.

[wetkingcanute]

I'll put in context for you baloo

would you like him using songs by The Clash?

[perrykneeham]

I'd like him to use Rock the Kasbah more frequently.

I really don't care TBH. They're songs. They're in the public domain.

Just say "we don't support Trump" and move on. Anything else it just a bit precious.

[perrykneeham]

Tom Petty's a bit too dead to express a preference, surely?

[mids]

I'm not sure they can legally stop him. As far as I understand, as long as you have the necessary licence, you're free to play whatever songs the licence covers.

[perrykneeham]

I can quite see why so many of these middle-class white boys might be keen to prove their BLM credentials, mind. They've all made massive fortunes from exploitation of the labours of poor black folks.

[whiterum]

Trump isn't playing the stones song, he uses a choir to sing the song, not heard it, but its no doubt a crappy version.

[wetkingcanute]

What would you know about middle class white boys baloo? what with you being an African Prince.

[mids]

To be fair to the Stones and other British blues based artistes from the same era, they gave a bit of a boost to a lot of struggling American blues artistes whose music wasn't particularly popular in America anymore.

[wetkingcanute]

More than a bit of a boost - it transformed their careers.

(I exclude Led Zeppelin from this - they really did rip off Blues artists)

[perrykneeham]

Jun 28, 2020 9:53:10 GMT mids said:

To be fair to the Stones and other British blues based artistes from the same era, they gave a bit of a boost to a lot of struggling American blues artistes whose music wasn't particularly popular in America anymore.

Yes, the Rolling stones are the Colonel Sanders of blues-based rock.

[flatandy]

Can you imagine spending your life playing the music that represents the feelings of the most down-trodden people in the western world, the broke descendents of slaves working through the Great Depression in the fields in the deep south, and then the same people travelling north to the rust belt to try and take the worst jobs in the factories of Detroit and Chicago... and then having to pretend to be grateful to, and in awe of, and appearing second on the bill to, boring middle class kids of London's stockbroker belt who are doing all kinds of stupid things to try and achieve "authenticity".

[jimboky]

it wasn't just the blacks who were broke during the depression, I think the depression was over when the London boys started singing

[flatandy]

The descendents of slaves who were still working the farms in the Mississippi Delta were not the only broke people, but they were the most downtrodden of all.

[wetkingcanute]

You really do live in a funny old world andy - you really do.

[mids]

And of course, many of those black American blues musicians would never have been heard at all without the help of American Jews.

[perrykneeham]

For a cut. They weren't charidy workers. Should they starve? Oy!

[Repat Van]

Jun 28, 2020 14:26:07 GMT mids said:

And of course, many of those black American blues musicians would never have been heard at all without the help of American Jews.

:D

[mids]

And of course, American English ethnomusicologist, John Lomax who recorded many, many black blues musicians for the first time.