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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 16:47:29 GMT
He didn't do that. That's your invention.
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Post by mids on Sept 10, 2023 16:50:15 GMT
If he was able to dupe her for 20 years, she must be thick as f**k- he should get a medal for putting up with a moron for so long. Lying to get sex isn't very nice but it's a long way from illegal and in this case, was done in the line of duty so it's fine
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 16:51:10 GMT
He didn't do that. That's your invention. Literally the first sentence in the article: “ An undercover police officer used his fake identity to deceive a woman into a 19-year relationship” Then the force’s own investigation: “ However, it is understood that by 2013 senior officers at Avon and Somerset police discovered that one of their officers had been using his undercover identity to deceive a woman into a relationship for many years, and that she had given birth to his child.” “ For reasons that remain unknown, the force decided not to inform Mary for another seven years, until 2020. That delay enabled her partner to continue using the fake identity, even after he had left the force, prolonging the deception.” |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 16:55:26 GMT
I am reminded of something Mrs. B and I were discussing this morning: a neighbour recently tried to have a footpath passing her property closed. One of the factors she suggested was that the existence of the path meant that a neighbour had to cut the tall hedge which, in turn, meant that the bloke who does it (the charming son of the elderly lady who is a neighbour) can see into her garden, where her kids play.
It's hard to imagine the level of dishonesty, self importance and personal gittishness that would allow someone to imply that an innocent bloke is probably a paedo, just to support your whiney attempt to close a footpath that's been there for centuries.
And then you read Van's posts.
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Post by mids on Sept 10, 2023 16:57:58 GMT
I hope she was at least decent looking. If she's not, the poor bloke.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 16:58:09 GMT
He didn't do that. That's your invention. Literally the first sentence in the article: “ An undercover police officer used his fake identity to deceive a woman into a 19-year relationship” Then the force’s own investigation: “ However, it is understood that by 2013 senior officers at Avon and Somerset police discovered that one of their officers had been using his undercover identity to deceive a woman into a relationship for many years, and that she had given birth to his child.” “ For reasons that remain unknown, the force decided not to inform Mary for another seven years, until 2020. That delay enabled her partner to continue using the fake identity, even after he had left the force, prolonging the deception.” He didn't deceive her into a relationship. That's just silly, unless you can demonstrate that the essence of her attraction to him was that he was a generic businessman, doing something that she was never passionate enough to discover. |
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 16:59:35 GMT
If he was able to dupe her for 20 years, she must be thick as f**k- he should get a medal for putting up with a moron for so long. Lying to get sex isn't very nice but it's a long way from illegal and in this case, was done in the line of duty so it's fine Another rape apologist. “Sexual assault and uninformed consent is ok if it’s relevant to my job!!” From the man who claims to abhor “misogyny in music” but absolutely supports men overriding women’s consent “in the line of duty”. Interesting. Misogyny is ok when you do it it appears. Anyway he used his identity used for undercover operations. If it were easy to determine the truth it would be a pretty more cover. And to be clear this was not “in the line of duty”. Not only are you a misogynist rape apologist you also cannot read: “ It is not known why the undercover police officer cultivated his relationship with Mary, which began in 2001. Mary is not believed to have been the target of any surveillance operation. Neither are her family, who say they have never had links to criminals.” |
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 17:00:22 GMT
Literally the first sentence in the article: “ An undercover police officer used his fake identity to deceive a woman into a 19-year relationship” Then the force’s own investigation: “ However, it is understood that by 2013 senior officers at Avon and Somerset police discovered that one of their officers had been using his undercover identity to deceive a woman into a relationship for many years, and that she had given birth to his child.” “ For reasons that remain unknown, the force decided not to inform Mary for another seven years, until 2020. That delay enabled her partner to continue using the fake identity, even after he had left the force, prolonging the deception.” He didn't deceive her into a relationship. That's just silly, unless you can demonstrate that the essence of her attraction to him was that he was a generic businessman, doing something that she was never passionate enough to discover. Literally the first sentence in the article: “ An undercover police officer used his fake identity to deceive a woman into a 19-year relationship”. He could have told her who he was. And then see if she would consent to a relationship. Reading Mids and Bear’s rape apologist stance reminds me of this I saw today: The have both definitely used (or would use) deceit to override a woman’s right to consent. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 17:01:55 GMT
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Post by mids on Sept 10, 2023 17:03:50 GMT
So, a good chat up line would be, "Hi, I'm some sort of businessman. Fancy a drink?" That's what you're saying if the only reason she wanted the relationship was because of his "fake identity".
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 17:09:40 GMT
Oh dear Rape Apologist. The IOPC is also conducting an investigation currently. ALSO. CURRENTLY. The force itself however determined this a while ago: “ However, it is understood that by 2013 senior officers at Avon and Somerset police discovered that one of their officers had been using his undercover identity to deceive a woman into a relationship for many years, and that she had given birth to his child. For reasons that remain unknown, the force decided not to inform Mary for another seven years, until 2020. That delay enabled her partner to continue using the fake identity, even after he had left the force, prolonging the deception” I can only assume your inability to read properly is because you are now coming to terms with the number women you have definitely sexually assaulted in the past. |
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 17:12:07 GMT
So, a good chat up line would be, "Hi, I'm some sort of businessman. Fancy a drink?" That's what you're saying if the only reason she wanted the relationship was because of his "fake identity". Nobody said she “wanted the relationship because he was a business man.” It is saying that he concealed his true identity to override her right to consent. How many women have you raped? Nobody who understands consent would be struggling with this simple concept. He concealed his true identity. Specifically to deceive her into a relationship. As it is likely had she know who he truly was she would have declined a relationship with him. We clearly have so much work to do with the male species to get them to understand consent as far as it applies to women’s bodies. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 17:12:24 GMT
"Get your coat, love: I'm corporate!"
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Post by mids on Sept 10, 2023 17:13:16 GMT
Van: "why do no police, or anyone at all really, want to dupe me into a relationship?"
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 17:13:16 GMT
"However, it is understood that by 2013 senior officers at Avon and Somerset police discovered that one of their officers had been using his undercover identity to deceive a woman into a relationship for many years, and that she had given birth to his child."
And?
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 17:14:27 GMT
"However, it is understood that by 2013 senior officers at Avon and Somerset police discovered that one of their officers had been using his undercover identity to deceive a woman into a relationship for many years, and that she had given birth to his child." And? You are confusing the IOPC and the A&S police force. Just helping you out Mr Rapist. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 17:14:34 GMT
"Oooh! You had me at 'I've got a company Vauxhall Vectra.'"
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 17:15:06 GMT
Van: "why do no police, or anyone at all really, want to dupe me into a relationship?" It’s 2023 and men like you STILL think that women actually secretly desire to be raped? Oh dear. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 10, 2023 17:16:23 GMT
"However, it is understood that by 2013 senior officers at Avon and Somerset police discovered that one of their officers had been using his undercover identity to deceive a woman into a relationship for many years, and that she had given birth to his child." And? You are confusing the IOPC and the A&S police force. Just helping you out Mr Rapist. You're confusing awareness with condemnation, Mrs. Baby killer. |
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 10, 2023 17:19:09 GMT
You are confusing the IOPC and the A&S police force. Just helping you out Mr Rapist. You're confusing awareness with condemnation, Mrs. Baby killer. Nah - you just didn’t read it properly. As always, you got it wrong and are trying desperately to pretend you didn’t. All while revealing yourself to be, if not an advocate of rape - definitely supporting obtaining consent through trickery and deceit. |
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