Black history month

[flatandy]

"BLM racism"? Hahahahaha!

Also, the FA's "Kick it out" campaign has obviously been so successful as you can see at Millwall. Uh huh...

[flatandy]

Also, "Kick it out" is clearly a different thing to taking a knee, which is itself clearly a different thing to BLM.

The fact that people are conflating them all is a clear demonstration of lack of understanding.

[mids]

blm are racists.

[perrykneeham]

Ineffectual ones too. They also hate ordinary people. Their silly agenda has been gutted by the common man on the terraces.

[flatandy]

It's so pathetic and desperate. "The people opposed to racism are racists" is the new "The people opposed to fascism are fascists".

I know it makes you all uncomfortable when racism is pointed out rather than brushed under the carpet and ignored like it used to be in the good old days.

[perrykneeham]

Decent are aware of racism without having to sign up for a course and wear a badge. Is BLM about racism though, or just the perpetuation of whiney, dishonest victimhood?

Did any of the "victims" held out by BLM as exemplars of whitey's murderous racism actually check out or where they all largely the authors of their own destruction?

[flatandy]

Dec 8, 2020 15:03:05 GMT perrykneeham said:

Is BLM about racism though, or just the perpetuation of whiney, dishonest victimhood??

BLM is about racism. You're trying to make it about your whiney dishonest victimhood: "Miss! They're pretending that my white life doesn't matter! Miss! It's so UNFAIR Miss! Waaaaaah!"

[mids]

Why are the blm racists objecting to us clapping back at them about their racism?

[voice]

I see we've moved on from 'don't be beastly to the racists' to 'when black people are killed by white cops its their own fault'

Equality really does bother some doesn't it

[wetkingcanute]

I've been reading through the posts of andy; voice and van over the last three pages.
I now understand why Trump got voted in and still, having been the worst POTUS ever, has millions of people still voting for him.
Also that the Conservative Party has been in power for so long and the Labour Party so unelectable.

Here we have three nice, intelligent and worldly wise people who, when faced with a situation that does not comply with their world view, go into utter melt down.

The idea that it is possible to not agree with "Taking The Knee" and NOT be racist is just totally beyond them.

So instead of trying to understand this point or indeed consider it in any way they rely on calling anyone who has the audacity to disagree with them the following:

Racist; Triggered; Racist; White Fragility; Pathetic & Desperate; Racist; Terribly Upset; Right Wing; Racist; Bluster and ...oh yes RACIST!!! etc. etc

Well, I am not a racist. I am not melting down; triggered or a delicate snowflake and I think "Taking the Knee" in the UK is, as I've said before, a vacuous load of bollocks.

[mids]

"Here we have three nice, intelligent and worldly wise people"

Let's not get carried away now...

[flatandy]

Dec 8, 2020 17:25:28 GMT wetkingcanute said:

The idea that it is possible to not agree with "Taking The Knee" and NOT be racist is just totally beyond them.

You might not agree with Taking The Knee, but would you boo it? Would you actively campaign against people doing it? You might think it's pointless performative bollocks which is an empty meaningless gesture, just like wearing a poppy or a minute's silence, but why would you boo it?

[perrykneeham]

Dec 8, 2020 15:14:21 GMT flatandy said:

Dec 8, 2020 15:03:05 GMT perrykneeham said:

Is BLM about racism though, or just the perpetuation of whiney, dishonest victimhood??

BLM is about racism. You're trying to make it about your whiney dishonest victimhood: "Miss! They're pretending that my white life doesn't matter! Miss! It's so UNFAIR Miss! Waaaaaah!"

Nope. You've made that up. But you needed to do something of course. BLM appears to be about the relative worth of suicidally criminal black people.

[perrykneeham]

Dec 8, 2020 18:08:45 GMT flatandy said:

Dec 8, 2020 17:25:28 GMT wetkingcanute said:

The idea that it is possible to not agree with "Taking The Knee" and NOT be racist is just totally beyond them.

You might not agree with Taking The Knee, but would you boo it? Would you actively campaign against people doing it? You might think it's pointless performative bollocks which is an empty meaningless gesture, just like wearing a poppy or a minute's silence, but why would you boo it?

There's absolutely no comparison with wearing poppies. That's just silly.

[wetkingcanute]

No andy I would not boo it - that's not the point. We've been talking about the Millwall supporter who were there and did boo it.
They didn't want it at their club. I'm sure there were a few hard core racists in that crowd but I bet 90% were not - they just didn't want "Taking The Knee" at their club for all the reasons given.

And you trying to compare it with Remembrance Sunday is beneath you.

[voice]

You've never been to a Millwall game have you.

So, do you think those booing were not motivated by racism, i mean that's pretty naive.

Just look at those defending these racists and what their arguments (sic) are, its all you need really to show the true motivation. Black people are to blame when dibble murder them, protesting racial injustice makes you racist and so on. Its risible. That you can't see this is a bit disappointing.

[mids]

Millwall is that guy circled in red.

[flatandy]

Dec 8, 2020 18:15:19 GMT perrykneeham said:

Dec 8, 2020 18:08:45 GMT flatandy said:

You might not agree with Taking The Knee, but would you boo it? Would you actively campaign against people doing it? You might think it's pointless performative bollocks which is an empty meaningless gesture, just like wearing a poppy or a minute's silence, but why would you boo it?

There's absolutely no comparison with wearing poppies. That's just silly.

I mean, obviously ending racism is more important than glorifying war and the military, but you can see both as empty performative gestures if you're so inclined.

[perrykneeham]

"glorifying war"

As I say, silly.

[flatandy]

Yes it is.