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Post by Charles Martel on Jan 20, 2009 0:11:21 GMT
Your "another website" is the same website - that of a fringe group inside Judaism who are against the establishment of Israel because they believe it's the role of the Messiah - not the Jews - to create such a state. It's a bit like claiming the few fringe 9/11 deniers who happen to be family members of 9/11 victims are representative of the rest of Americans.
As for weapons supplied by the American taxpayer to Israel (like the weapons supplied to Britain and the Soviet Union against Nazis), I'm proud to be contributing to a good cause (not that I'm even a US citizen but I pay US taxes anyway), and I hope Israel - the frontline in the global war against Islamic terror - will continue to repel that vile ideology. I consider arming Israel in the fight against Islamic terror to be money well spent.
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Post by newyorker on Jan 20, 2009 0:14:11 GMT
I'll second that, money well spent!
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 20, 2009 0:16:03 GMT
Wow! from an Israeli Government site.
Lordy!!! It must be true!!!
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...even though I do condemn violence from both sides!
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Post by newyorker on Jan 20, 2009 0:22:58 GMT
Wow! from an Israeli Government site. Lordy!!! It must be true!!! . It is simply a list of the dates and casualties, of course it's true. Horrible isn't it. |
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Post by Brittles on Jan 20, 2009 0:24:58 GMT
As for weapons supplied by the American taxpayer to Israel (like the weapons supplied to Britain and the Soviet Union against Nazis), I'm proud to be contributing to a good cause (not that I'm even a US citizen but I pay US taxes anyway), and I hope Israel - the frontline in the global war against Islamic terror - will continue to repel that vile ideology. I consider arming Israel in the fight against Islamic terror to be money well spent. So how do you (and you too NY) feel about arming Saudi Arabia - and avowed enemy of the Israeli regime? I'd call that a contradiction. |
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 20, 2009 0:28:32 GMT
The problem with minority hate groups is that they completely, narrow-mindedly and consistantly fail to see both sides of the argument! Whether your pro-israeli or pro-palestine.
Unlike the rest of the world that keep both eyes and both ears WIDE OPEN.
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 20, 2009 0:33:50 GMT
'Unlike the rest of the world that keep both eyes and both ears WIDE OPEN.'
Unfortunately, it's these groups that have to sort things out properly and without hatred or venom.
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Post by newyorker on Jan 20, 2009 0:35:40 GMT
As for weapons supplied by the American taxpayer to Israel (like the weapons supplied to Britain and the Soviet Union against Nazis), I'm proud to be contributing to a good cause (not that I'm even a US citizen but I pay US taxes anyway), and I hope Israel - the frontline in the global war against Islamic terror - will continue to repel that vile ideology. I consider arming Israel in the fight against Islamic terror to be money well spent. So how do you (and you too NY) feel about arming Saudi Arabia - and avowed enemy of the Israeli regime? I'd call that a contradiction. I'm pissed off about it, the arabs are our enemies, it's like selling arms to Mussolini during WWII, there's rotten deals made for cheap oil, someone deserves to hang for it. |
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Post by lawrence on Jan 20, 2009 0:38:56 GMT
camel-sodding filth
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 20, 2009 0:40:37 GMT
'vile ideology'..from what I understand from my Muslim friends is that Islam embraces Judaism and Christianity. So by your inference you're calling Judaism & Christainity vile as well. Hmmm, confused I think? 
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Post by puffin on Jan 20, 2009 0:46:47 GMT
We can all post lists from biased sources, NY. www.ifamericansknew.org/The facts may, probably are, completely accurate from both sites. The emphasis is very different. Are you capable of looking at both sets of statistics and saying that they are both going round in circles, provoking retaliation and NEED to STOP. Not one side... BOTH sides. |
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Post by newyorker on Jan 20, 2009 0:48:52 GMT
'vile ideology'..from what I understand from my Muslim friends is that Islam embraces Judaism and Christianity. So by your inference you're calling Judaism & Christainity vile as well. Hmmm, confused I think? Yes you are confused, Muslims think Islam is superior to Christianity and Judaism, they think their religion is pure and our religions are corrupt. |
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Post by newyorker on Jan 20, 2009 0:51:11 GMT
We can all post lists from biased sources, NY. www.ifamericansknew.org/The facts may, probably are, completely accurate from both sites. The emphasis is very different. Are you capable of looking at both sets of statistics and saying that they are both going round in circles, provoking retaliation and NEED to STOP. Not one side... BOTH sides. Biased source? I'm posting from an Israeli government site listing the attacks against innocent Israeli civilians, it's like posting from a British government site, or a US government site, it is a list of facts. Not garbage from some fringe lunatic blog. BOTH sides? There's no other side, I have no interest in why psychopathic criminals mass murder innocent people. |
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 20, 2009 0:58:32 GMT
Funnily enough NY governments do lie. UK - WMD US - WMD Nixon - Watergate Reagan - Arms for hostages Clinton - Lewinski HAHAHAHAHA Thing is NY most of us don't shove our heads up the @ss of our governments. We have our own opinions... Who knows if you believe in Neo hard enough he may come up with your answer! GOOD LUCK!  |
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Post by puffin on Jan 20, 2009 0:59:16 GMT
You think that an Israeli government site wouldn't be biased for Israel?
They would be an unusual government indeed that didn't present facts in a way that they wanted their viewers to read.
I did check the other site against figures published elsewhere. their figures are, if anything, more circumspect than many others. I chose to post the most moderate.
There is no reason to doubt the figures on either side of the equasion.
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Post by puffin on Jan 20, 2009 1:02:10 GMT
But I see you are unable to even consider that Peace would be a better option than continuing the endless round of hate, retribution and death.
I might have known.
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Post by newyorker on Jan 20, 2009 1:02:54 GMT
You think that an Israeli government site wouldn't be biased for Israel? Yawn. Now you are being boring. These are all very documented facts and dates. Or do you, in spite of the obvious concrete evidence, believe that Israel hasn't been the victim of non-stop terrorist attacks by Hamas and the PLO? |
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 20, 2009 1:03:15 GMT
"they think their religion is pure and our religions are corrupt."
If that's so Neo then that means that they consider all three religions to be corrupt ...as Islam is based fundimentally on Judaism and Christianity?
Wait a minute didn't the Jews ridicule Christ ...or am I not being clear enough
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 20, 2009 1:06:06 GMT
'But I see you are unable to even consider that Peace would be a better option than continuing the endless round of hate, retribution and death.' Well said Puffin!  Difficult and nigh on impossible to comprehend for some people. Gladly not for most of us! |
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Post by newyorker on Jan 20, 2009 1:06:11 GMT
"they think their religion is pure and our religions are corrupt." If that's so Neo then that means that they consider all three religions to be corrupt ...as Islam is based fundimentally on Judaism and Christianity? Wait a minute didn't the Jews ridicule Christ ...or am I not being clear enough Nope, they think they're the superior and only legitimate religion, and that Jews and Christians are corrupted and illegitimate. They say so themselves. I'm stating their position. If you prefer to lie to yourself about it, knock yourself out. |
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