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Post by sperge on Jan 25, 2009 15:31:38 GMT
I had considered the possibility that the whole mess was planned. If true then Brown would definitely be a treason case for which I believe hanging is still an option. Unless he cahnged it in case he ver got caught. Unfortunately they abolished hanging for treason in the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, replacing it with a discretionary maximum sentence of life imprisonment. Sneaked that one through, didn't they? However, there is a bunch of tinfoil hatters who are trying to get every minister from Heath's cabinet onwards prosecuted for treason. ;D
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Post by sushimo on Jan 25, 2009 15:52:49 GMT
I count myself as very lucky, never been in debt, but if this Gov't has it's way I could be in the future, and that would really pee me off!
It really did get to the state where everyone felt it was their right to have the newest, latest and best of everything marketed, credit was thrown at you, even if you didn't want it. Hell, they even gave me an overdraft of £5k, unasked for, unprompted, and not needed. I think it was hoped I would go out and shop till I dropped - like many others sadly did. Personal bankruptcies were up 7% last year, who pays for their cleared debts? we do!
I know of kids that have enough toys to delight a school full of kids in Africa, most left unplayed with under the bed. How did we get to the point where people were spending thousands on their kids etc. for Xmas?? Why? they have everything already!! I actually heard folk say that they were going to max out the plastic to have a blow out Xmas.......mad or what??
All this spending on credit should have been nipped in the bud years ago. Bank staff should have been turned back into tellers, and not used purely to sell us insurance, investments and loans. There should have been a watchdog on the gov't to monitor any actions on behalf of US - the people who pay their inflated salaries.
Rick is spot on, what this lot have done to us all amounts to treason, and every single one of them (including Blair) should be hauled up an be made accountable.
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Post by Oldtwit on Jan 25, 2009 17:17:43 GMT
Sadly countries can go bankrupt and the UK is dangerously heading that way. Reducing the Bank rate is just plain stupidity because the system is governed by the LIBOR. Anyone with half a brain will put any savings on the rate reduction either into savings or just reduce their mortgage. Me I'm punting it offshore into euros which are guaranteed to survive simply because almost all Euromembers are producers and manufacturers - the UK is not. We sell "Financial Services" which is a pretty crappy "industry" at the moment. Anyone with any investments in cash in the UK is well advised to look at bunging up to 15,000 quid/euros into a Livret A account. Jesus wept the displays on this board are seriously "fussy" and do I really need to know I can use another 59225 characters on this message - tried to add a smiley and got - Then previewed it and got smiley!!!!
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Post by Oldtwit on Jan 25, 2009 17:26:33 GMT
PS - just think the $ used to be 2.40 to the quid - tis now 1.4 and the euro was 1.48 and tis now 1.03.
The only way the UK can earn foreign currency to pay its debts is the sell products and most of our products are Japanese - Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Sharp, etc. They will simply close down with minimal losses
Our electricity is French, Spanish or German - we have no gas left nor oil.
We've got lots of unemployed or sick - they are NOT affected by a recession cos they live their whole life in one.
Gordon Brown and good ol' Tony got use here and if they had kept rule 4/clause 4 and renationalised our infrastructure then we would have had a good chance of survival
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Post by sperge on Jan 25, 2009 17:29:43 GMT
Anyone with half a brain will put any savings on the rate reduction either into savings or just reduce their mortgage. Me I'm punting it offshore into euros which are guaranteed to survive simply because almost all Euromembers are producers and manufacturers - the UK is not. Would you advise anyone to buy gold or silver at all?
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 25, 2009 17:42:00 GMT
PS - just think the $ used to be 2.40 to the quid - tis now 1.4 and the euro was 1.48 and tis now 1.03. The only way the UK can earn foreign currency to pay its debts is the sell products and most of our products are Japanese - Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Sharp, etc. They will simply close down with minimal losses Our electricity is French, Spanish or German - we have no gas left nor oil. We've got lots of unemployed or sick - they are NOT affected by a recession cos they live their whole life in one. Gordon Brown and good ol' Tony got use here and if they had kept rule 4/clause 4 and renationalised our infrastructure then we would have had a good chance of survival You forgot the most basic commodity of all OT. Water
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Post by yord on Jan 25, 2009 19:20:21 GMT
"We've got lots of unemployed or sick - they are NOT affected by a recession cos they live their whole life in one "
They will be when the price of food starts going up 100% a month and the government forces them into manual work for the benifits. Oh yes , its coming and soon
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 19:32:37 GMT
manual work for the benifitsWould that be a bad thing?
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Post by jonnyalpha on Jan 25, 2009 19:40:19 GMT
Only if you produce daytime TV.
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Post by yord on Jan 25, 2009 19:59:28 GMT
"Would that be a bad thing?"
You cant keep on paying benifits as we are now and demanding more and more services. We are unable to compete in a global market and reliant on imports as it is. Sooo how do you reverse that situation without a fecking uprising ? It dosnt take a lot of thinking through. It dosnt take much thinking to see where its going either.
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Post by Libby on Jan 25, 2009 20:32:01 GMT
I agree with rick too! No stiff upper lips any more, too many whingers and no-hopers bludging off the State. We need to get back to basics, remember what's really important, not live beyond our means, appreciate what we have and stop being greedy and wanting more than we can afford. A bit more postive mental attitude would help us all. ;D
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Post by yord on Jan 25, 2009 22:45:05 GMT
What would help us more is to get all the parasites off our backs, and Im not talking about the benifit scroungers, but the idiots that made it possible for them to be scroungers
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Post by grizzley on Jan 26, 2009 2:05:00 GMT
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