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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:26:15 GMT
and anyway ..its just as much of a chance to not bank on a certainty as it is to bank on one that may turn out not to be one
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 22:26:47 GMT
yes it is intent that gives that knowledge and intent is indifferent as it will give it to any bugger that uses it
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 22:28:08 GMT
no it fecking well isnt and if you used intent youd know it , as a certainty
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:31:31 GMT
post 200 was written with intent .Quite successfully
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 22:34:41 GMT
Ohhhhhhh thats easy to say when its on the other page
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:36:40 GMT
eh? .It aint .It's up the top of this one
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 22:38:27 GMT
yeah well I got confused with 199 and 200
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Post by Scooby Do on Feb 3, 2009 22:39:40 GMT
post 200 was written with intent .Quite successfully Where are the post numbers, Do I have to count them?
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Post by tarrant on Feb 3, 2009 22:39:40 GMT
So .... why can't the Creationists accept that all things change over time? After all, for all they know perhaps it was part of Gods plan that life would evolve and improve. Creationists are modern dogmatists. Sadly, it would seem that evolution is being hijacked by another set of dogmatists with an equally tenuous appreciation of or respect for facts. The apparent rejection, by Dawkins, of chance mutation is a further example. Coupled with his previous attempt to imply that your life will be more enjoyable if you reject a god his intentions seem to be more apparent. It would seem increasingly likely that the likes of Dawkins have an ulterior motive for their evangelical proselytising. The worship of scientists and the blind faith in their pronouncements, as demonstrated on here for example, is a substitution for what Dawkins claims to oppose rather than a rejection of it. Reading some of the contributions, for example, claiming the mechanism of evolution is 'intent' demonstrate that the notion of ulterior motive in evolution is as evident in those that follow Dawkins and those that propound creationism. Sad.
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Post by Scooby Do on Feb 3, 2009 22:40:38 GMT
and anyway ..its just as much of a chance to not bank on a certainty as it is to bank on one that may turn out not to be one Or The less you bet, the more you lose when you win.
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:42:38 GMT
see? you found it scooby .Should have bet on it
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 22:43:26 GMT
and what would you say that ulterior motive was tarrant
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Post by Scooby Do on Feb 3, 2009 22:48:38 GMT
see? you found it scooby .Should have bet on it Oh, I did, had a Pound each way
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Post by Marshall on Feb 3, 2009 23:03:57 GMT
Chance mutation - are you saying organisms mutate in a completely arbitrary way without respect to their environment?
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Post by tarrant on Feb 4, 2009 0:00:19 GMT
Chance mutation of genes causes physical changes to the organism.
Most of the physical changes are pathological and the organism dies.
Ocasionally a physical change is advantagous and it is passed onto the organism's off spring.
It's the chance mutation of the genes that is the driving force of evolution.
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Post by Marshall on Feb 4, 2009 0:19:38 GMT
So it's strictly hit or miss? I don't buy that for a second.
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Post by yord on Feb 4, 2009 0:34:46 GMT
it is chance using intent.
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Post by Marshall on Feb 4, 2009 0:36:08 GMT
I don't get what you mean by intent, yord.
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Post by yord on Feb 4, 2009 0:42:04 GMT
and is as close as you can get to something that is indescribable that does away with both a god and evolution.
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Post by Marshall on Feb 4, 2009 0:44:30 GMT
Do you mean something like willpower?
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