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Post by vania on Jan 13, 2009 11:24:48 GMT
Libby, the reason for the difference is the history of the word. Plus it's only the case in britain, I'm sure in other places 'Paki' hasn't taken on the negative connotations it has here.
Basically we can blame skinhead thugs who appropriated the word as a term of abuse for people of South Asian descent (they didn't have to be from Pakistan). Most Asians who will have heard the term will have heard it being thrown at them in an offensive manner, hence why it is deemed at best to be incredibly, incredibly outdated and at worst, racist.
The same cannot be said of the term 'Brit' hence why (in England) its use isn't really offensive.
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Post by Libby on Jan 13, 2009 12:18:26 GMT
I get your point vania and agree with you. I also think it's time we left Harry alone, surely he will be a bit more careful after all this publicity. The point is that he will never really be "off duty" from royalty, he will always be followed and watched for every slip.
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Post by vania on Jan 13, 2009 12:25:36 GMT
Oh I do think it was very overblown.
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Post by assegai on Jan 13, 2009 13:44:44 GMT
Could not give a toss really.I have been called a rooinek,saltprik,and limey by Afrikaners.Limey by yanks,Pommie bastard by Australians,Vito by mixed race South Africans.Umlungu by Zulus.And quite frankly, anyone who makes a mountain out of a molehill for using the name ´Paki´Should grow a thicker skin.The saying Sticks & Stones
comes to mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2009 14:39:02 GMT
 Can you see me mother?..lol
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Post by vania on Jan 13, 2009 15:14:21 GMT
The saying 'sticks and stones' is the stupidest saying ever.
And Assegai your point is meaningless. Just because you are happy being called every name under the sun does not mean others are or should be. Accept that people are different and learn basic manners in how to treat your fellow man!
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 13, 2009 17:05:45 GMT
Prince Charles is underfire now , so its saying on 5news now. For calling a Indian friend ' sooty '
He actually like his nickname and didnt mind.
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Post by Libby on Jan 13, 2009 17:09:45 GMT
Perhaps Prince Charles is trying to detract from the attention over his son lol!  |
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 13, 2009 17:10:26 GMT
He was Prince Charles polo friend so.,.
' minty ' would be fitting a name !?
Whatever, its a none story thats made the news and he nor Harry are known to be racist.
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Post by Libby on Jan 13, 2009 17:15:23 GMT
I think the press are trying to latch on to anything concerning possible rascism and the royal family. It's getting quite tedious now, because there really isn't anything in these stories.
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Post by radge on Jan 13, 2009 17:16:09 GMT
Its all about the way the word is used. Words are meaningless without meaning behind them. And im not talking about the dictionary definition meaning, im talking about the way its said. That gives meaning to words and unless its said in a nasty or hurtful way there should never be a problem, but saying that the general population are a bunch of plebs and we could all do with a chill pill once in a while
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Post by Libby on Jan 13, 2009 17:17:44 GMT
Well said radge!  |
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Post by cathy on Jan 13, 2009 17:23:55 GMT
Sorry, just testing something out.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 13, 2009 17:27:21 GMT
Is that radge from long ago? Have you been away or were you posting under another name?
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Post by radge on Jan 13, 2009 17:28:14 GMT
how ya doing cobblers heh heh ive been away for over 5 years and now im back! |
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Post by reverend on Jan 13, 2009 19:48:36 GMT
lets see, we had three black guys, one chinese and one asian in our battery alone,
Sam was known as withaspoon, or spooney because he ate everything with a spoon!
Tam was called goggles due to the appaling glasses he used to wear
Lenny was known as Um Bongo, dont know why he never said
Lin went by Chink
and Saraj was called Bindi,
Im 6ft 4" and was generally called Titch, if there were other taffs about.
Basically army nicknames generally go by differences that make people stand out, Chink was the only Chinese guy in the whole regiment so he got lumbered early on, Bindi is self explanatory as he was the only Asian, but as there were three black guys they got nicknames based on other noticable features or traits!
None of it was racist or derogatory, noone ever complained and general abuse to each other is the norm in the Army, so personally I think this is a witch hunt by sh*t for brains who look for things to be offended about!
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Post by reverend on Jan 13, 2009 19:51:12 GMT
ummm, the word spoon is being auto edited!!!
spoon being what you would eat soup with, looks like its offensive to erm, soup haters!
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 13, 2009 19:52:31 GMT
Exactly so, and now the hunt has turned to Charlie, who calls him chum "Sooty"
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 13, 2009 19:53:40 GMT
Prince defended by friend 'Sooty'
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Post by radge on Jan 13, 2009 19:54:16 GMT
yeah i just picked up on that one too. heh heh its all so gay. Oh no!!! am I allowed to say that ias a derogatory meaning!!?? Ive shamed myself, and soiled myself simultaniously
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