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Post by Libby on Feb 9, 2009 13:43:07 GMT
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waldo
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Post by waldo on Feb 9, 2009 14:31:37 GMT
Feel quite sorry for the dogs,
they will not get a fair deal till the owners take complete responsibly for their actions.
This Idea of a dog being part of the family is so much rubbish. the dog is part of a pack with it's position in the pecking order. as in every pack if the dog(s) challenge their designated position, below the humans then they should be firmly put at the bottom.
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Post by Libby on Feb 9, 2009 14:39:49 GMT
The pecking order clearly wasn't established with the two dogs in this very sad case. It is the dog owner's responsibility to establish exactly where in the pack the dog fits and for the dog to know this. Once a dog realises it's place at the bottom of the pack where a family are concerned, the dog usually behaves well as a result. Dogs need to know where they stand with us humans, sadly very few humans seem to train their dogs accordingly.
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dwad
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Post by dwad on Feb 9, 2009 14:46:09 GMT
I would never leave a baby alone with a dog just out of common sense but in all these cases you see in the paper it's never the middle class labrador owner types. It is almost without fail a neglected staffie, bought to make some chave look hard. You see them sh*tting all over our local park escorted by hoodies encouraging them to savage various bits of detritus. While you should always watch a kid with a dog, reality is that nine times out of ten you get a bad owner not a bad dog.
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Post by Libby on Feb 9, 2009 14:49:39 GMT
Well said dwad! It's always the owner's fault at the end of the day, it is their responsibility. The dog/s pay the ultimate price at the end being put down. This has to be done to ensure no other person/baby etc is hurt again. The dog has been allowed to dominate and the risk is this could happen again.
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Muz
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Post by Muz on Feb 9, 2009 18:27:14 GMT
"It can be achieved in a very short time. For a start here I would like to know and I am willing to bet -none of you "
You lose your bet then. I spent quality time with my shepherd teaching her her place in the 'pack' and not treating her as a human.
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Scooby Do
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Post by Scooby Do on Feb 9, 2009 18:46:04 GMT
If you want to show it whos boss, bite its ear. It what they do in the pack.
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Post by Libby on Feb 9, 2009 20:21:12 GMT
We have always taught our dogs from 6 weeks old about pecking order in the pack and who's dominant etc. It's the first step for training any dog, or should be. Clearly these dogs challenged this by seeing themselves higher in the pecking order than the human baby.
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Post by justmyopinion on Feb 10, 2009 5:41:15 GMT
I would never leave a baby or young child alone with any animal, primarily because I wouldn't trust the animal but secondly, with a slihtly older child, because I wouldn't trust the child.
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Post by Libby on Feb 10, 2009 19:47:50 GMT
Quite right JMO, because children can be unpredictable and animals can be unpredictabel too. Together they make a potentially fatal situation.
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