Steve Coogan slams 'pathetic' David Cameron

[Rude Eric]

he comic, who met the Tory leader at a party, said: "He was very personable but I would rather stick knitting needles in my eyes than ever vote for him.

"There's something obsequious about him, something incredibly Machiavellian that most people haven't noticed yet. I can imagine him as an 18th Century swine, wearing a cloak and running someone through with a sword. Then he'd wipe the blade on his cloak. At the moment, he's trying to do this angry thing. He thinks it makes him look passionate, but it just makes him look hot-headed and a bit pathetic."

www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/02/08/steve-
coogan-slams-pathetic-david-cameron-115875-21107118/

We have yet to see the reel motivation behind the man.
Perhaps he is left leaning, but he is a prisoner in a right wing party that would destroy our essential public services if it won power. Just as it tried to do last time. The toys are a split party, with a leader leaning to wards the left while the grass roots are pulling heavily right. Cameron had been skillful at projecting his own image onto his party. But remember that it is the nasty party!!!

[Beachcomber]

Steve Coogan is now a political comentator and arbitrator of public opinion ? ..... His incisive wit and knowledge of political science is due to sway us all ?


Thank you Eric for awakening me to this new Guru.

[voice]

never been a fan of Coogan, but he's pinned Cameron in one.

[flatandy]

Coogan's rubbish, but Cameron is worse.

[Victor Meldrew]

Steve Coogan stepping into political debate? Brilliant!

Thanks for that, Eric. You've just reminded me of Will Young's attempts at making serious political comment on last week's Question Time, and the thought has cheered me up no end.

If Alan Partridge thinks Cameron would be bad for the Country, that's got to give his party a landslide come the next election, hasn't it?

[flatandy]

To be fair to Will Young, even though he was rubbish he was less bad than Hoon, May and Farrago.

[mids]

So, Lord Coogan before the end of the year then?

[tarrant]

When the Tories lost the 1997 election and apointed Hague, most people seemed to think he was a stop gap leader. Blair was so popular and had such a huge majority there seemed little point in them putting up a proper opposition.

His habit of snide quips, his attempts to organise a bockade of our roads, (which was actually illegal and possibly treasonous), his pomposity, all were tolerated because, hey, this is Hague, who cares.

Sadly, it seems that the Hague effect has continued.

The Tories remain arrogant, self rightious and utterly contemptous of anyone who dares to do anything other than worship at their feet.

They cannot seem to understand why the British people keep rejecting them and treat us with contempt.

Cameron arrives on the scene with all the charisma and contempt of some NHS consultant brushing aside his patients so he can get back to his golf game.

The real problem isn't what can be done about them or how they can improve.

The real problem now is, if they actually win.

That will be the greatest disaster for this country and for so many others.

[ricklinc]

Cameron would have to be amazingly God-awful catastrophic to take the title of Worst Government away from Nu Labour. He's actually have to sit up nights plotting and scheming to find a way to make the police service any less effectual than it is now. He'd have to search far and wide to find a brain-fried hippy that could suggest a way to beat nu labour targets as a surefire organisation killer. There simply can't be any more NGOs on which to waste money.

No, Blair and Brown have done so much to ensure that they long remain joint record holders in the All Party Disatrous Government Event.

[Victor Meldrew]

The real problem now is, if they actually win.

That will be the greatest disaster for this country and for so many others.

Given what we're going through now, and the Government's performance in the years leading up to it, that's one hell of a statement to make. We're at the pits of an economy. How the hell can it get worse?

As for arrogance, I can't see any way possible that the Tories could top this lot. Not even they would dream of using billions of taxpayers' money to prop up ailing institutions and then give the leaders of these failed businesses carte blanche to pay their staff 'bonuses' for doing such a wonderful job. The fact they believe no one will protest surely has to be the ultimate in arrogance and sheer contempt for the people in this Country. The sooner we're rid of this lot, the better as far as I'm concerned.

[tarrant]

The economy is in a recession, that is normal.

But, until about a year ago, we had the longest period of economic growth in UK history.

Civil liberities have been seriously erroded. Sadly, no word at all for the Tories that they intend to restore any of them.

The biggest blunder of the government has been it involvement in the war.

The Tories don't seem to have any problem with that either.

Other than what they don't say or do, the threat from the Tories is that they have no policies.

We are being asked to elect them simply because they are nice people!!

But they are not nice people.

The Tories are William Hague.

[buzzy]

Three cheers for Jeremy Clarkson - at least someone has the guts to tell the truth.

[flatandy]

Yes. Well done Jeremy Clarkson. I'm glad someone had the courage to say the unsayable, to finally get the truth out there, because nobody else, anywhere, was saying the Gordon Brown isn't actually very good. What a courageous fellow, oh yes.

[Victor Meldrew]

the threat from the Tories is that they have no policies.

Ah, not the old "they have no policies" line again. When all else turns to crap and Nu Labour look in trouble with the poll ratings, wheel that one out again.

They actually have loads of ideas, some formulated into policy and others at the discussion stage. They just aren't too forthcoming with them in public, because every time they do, Labour nicks the idea, and claims it was theirs all along. Raising of inheritance tax threshold, anyone?

The economy is in a recession, that is normal.

But, until about a year ago, we had the longest period of economic growth in UK history.

But as we now know, it was founded on debt and irresponsible risk taking by the financial institutions, which has now come back to bite us. I notice you make no mention of the "end of boom and bust" quote in there. Surely, that was all tied in with Brown's championing of the long period of sustained growth.

As for the recession, yes that's true it's a world recession, but some countries will fare better than others when it ends. I wonder how much of our ills, and how much of the hurdles in the way of recovery when the world economy picks up, will be as a result of trying to make good the irresponsible behaviour of the banks? Sure, it's only hypothetical, but you have to wonder how much of what was going on with the banks may have been stopped if the Bank of England had been allowed to continue regulating these institutions, rather than shifting the job to the completely toothless FSA created by this lot at Westminster? It still angers me when I recall the head of the FSA, Lord Turner, getting his mug on TV everywhere, trying to squirm his way out of claims that his lot should have been able to have stopped a lot of what was going on. His "it's not our fault guv" stance was just another piece of Nu labour inspired arrogance.

[tarrant]

Labour are terrible.

But at least we know what to expect.

[tarrant]

I see Victor. The Tories have polices but they are secret!!

So, we elect the Hague/Tory party because they are really nice and we trust them to really nice policies which are secret..

Very clever.

[Victor Meldrew]

No, they are put into a manifesto at election time. It's pretty standard practice.

[sushimo]

That's better Tarrant, you are now back to the person I disagree with on so many issues!

The main growth in this country was caused by uncontrollable debt, both personal and political. Now the country is a financial shambles, bankruptcies are rocketing (more debt to the rest of us), and people are losing their homes and jobs.

Brown? Oh yeah, he cut interest rates so low that those who saved now have nothing much to live on, and will soon be claiming more benefits. And a 2 1/2% VAT cut that was not worth the cost and effort to business.

We are rolling with Labour - into the nearest gutter!

[minge tightly]

Feb 9, 2009 9:51:33 GMT Victor Meldrew said:

Steve Coogan stepping into political debate? Brilliant!

Thanks for that, Eric. You've just reminded me of Will Young's attempts at making serious political comment on last week's Question Time, and the thought has cheered me up no end.

If Alan Partridge thinks Cameron would be bad for the Country, that's got to give his party a landslide come the next election, hasn't it?

Hehehe Will Young was so out of his depth on QT that watching his mild student ranting was hilarious.

Steve Coogan is a bit of an unfunny thingy now (Which will unfortunately, have a large impact on what I think of his comments) and this just smacks of another middle-aged northern class warrior stuck in an 80's mentality

[flatandy]

Feb 9, 2009 11:29:06 GMT Victor Meldrew said:

But as we now know, it was founded on debt and irresponsible risk taking by the financial institutions, which has now come back to bite us.

It's good to know that the Tories have always been trying to regulate the personal debt market more; were completely focussed on personal debt rather than government debt. It's good to know they didn't want a consumer society built on the back of house price increases. And that they have always been opposed to risk taking in the financial sector and were thoroughly in favour of cracking down on and regulating to hell trading in futures and in packaged debt.

I remember hundreds of fantastic speeches by George Osborne, and before him Oliver Letwin, pinpointing these issues and really pushing for more regulation in the City.

Oh yes.

This is the problem, you see. As soon as I think about the Labour, it makes me very very angry, and think I might even be able to vote Tory, they're so bad.

And then I think about the Tories, and they're so shockingly awful that I could see myself voting Labour.

Both are just excruciatingly incompetent; and way too dogmatic and wedded to low-regulation small state Thatcherism which has been proven to fail in these conditions - and which needs a different approach to counter.