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Post by vania on Feb 10, 2009 20:56:56 GMT
They are getting fed up to the teeth being discriminated against and treated as second class if they happen to be white. I mean, you just need to look at our media, or the various levels of government. You need to look at the top ranks in the civil service and all those people in senior position in the cabinet and shadow cabinet. You need to look at all our major business leaders, all the major talking heads on TV and in the press. You can see the massive, massive, massive discrimination against white people that stops white people getting to the top and becoming opinion formers. Frankly, it's astonishing that, in this repressive society, that any white person at all makes it as far as the rank of janitor. ;D Cann somebody tell me why a few hundred people making a complaint is a 'row'? I wonder if those same people had any issues with Clarkson's comments about Brown? Probably not. PS Where is Minge, I need to tell him that his favourite newspaper commentator. The bloated pig-faced lobster sat next to me today and the tube. I still feel dirty. |
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Post by vania on Feb 10, 2009 21:09:53 GMT
He he you forget that we do have a 'white party': The BNP. They restrict their membsership to those of 'obvious North European descent' so they can hardly complain about any of the things you've posted. Good for the goose, good for the gander and all. |
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Post by unclejunior on Feb 10, 2009 21:32:38 GMT
fortunately,I take great pride in being the only socio economic group that cannot be insulted or discriminated against.i am white ,heterosexual and from london.nothing anybody says can be proven to be offensive to me.its a badge of honour.
this allows me to be impervious to all the whining about how insulted someone is about some imaginary sleight that has be uttered or infered....
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Post by tarrant on Feb 11, 2009 0:03:52 GMT
He he you forget that we do have a 'white party': The BNP. They restrict their membsership to those of 'obvious North European descent' so they can hardly complain about any of the things you've posted. Good for the goose, good for the gander and all. I haven't forgotten about the BNP. However, the BNP is not mainstream, it's not considered respectable, employers don't give their active support to its members or to their activities. The BNP are a pile of scum. They have some ideas that might appeal to many people. Their stupid insistance upon including race in their policies is off putting to the greater majority of British people. British people have never supported such attempts to marginalise and persecute minorities. They won't start now. |
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Post by vania on Feb 11, 2009 0:06:25 GMT
He he you forget that we do have a 'white party': The BNP. They restrict their membsership to those of 'obvious North European descent' so they can hardly complain about any of the things you've posted. Good for the goose, good for the gander and all. I haven't forgotten about the BNP. However, the BNP is not mainstream, it's not considered respectable, employers don't give their active support to its members or to their activities. The BNP are a pile of scum. They have some ideas that might appeal to many people. Their stupid insistance upon including race in their policies is off putting to the greater majority of British people. British people have never supported such attempts to marginalise and persecute minorities. They won't start now. Ooh I sense goal posts being moved. Anyway the groups to whom you have posted links have even less media coverage than the BNP. Plus they aren't political bodies so have no access to power nor influence which a BNP party, in power, would have. Just pointing out how ridiculous your whinging is when the BNp has a whites only membership policy yet that doesn't seem to aggravate you. |
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Post by tarrant on Feb 11, 2009 0:45:41 GMT
Goal posts have not been moved. If you look at the policies of the BNP you will see that many are frequently supported by many British people, including many on here. What most British people will never support is the marginalisation of sections of the population. That is why the BNP will never make any real headway in the UK. The organisations I listed are not political parties and I didn't claim they were. They are all presssure groups representing specific racial or cultural groups and all are mainstream, respected and supported by employers, local authorities and such. Moreover, the very people who rant about white people being racist at every opportunity generally, support these and many other racially exclusive groups. Please try to pay attention that person!!  |
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Post by cobblers on Feb 11, 2009 1:40:16 GMT
I'm thinking about complaining to the BBC. I haven't been offended by it and I pay my licence fee the same as anybody else.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 8:50:26 GMT
If there is a sight more pathetic than middle class white males moaning about how awfully hard they have it and how much discrimination they suffer, then I have yet to see it. And I hope I never do, it's like watching your granny shït herself in public.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 11, 2009 8:59:35 GMT
Why don't you set one up, then? Because, clearly, nobody else has really seen a need to. For which there might be a good reason. Like, you know, the only way white middle aged blokes are discriminated against is the non-existence of the white police association. So you're, basically, arguing for the existence of the white police association so it can do absolutely nothing, because the only state of discrimination against the white police is the lack of the white police association. It's a bizarrely insane logic you're using here. |
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Post by flatandy on Feb 11, 2009 9:03:13 GMT
As for the BBC, this looks like more corporate munchausens.
A few people probably muttered something about "Well, if Clarkson's not allowed to be rude about Brown, why should Brand be rude about Thatcher, eh?" and the BBC, suffering from it's post Brandenross Gate symptoms, feels the need to flaggelate itself for its own badness and to create some scandal for itself to react appropriately against, even though there is no real scandal.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 9:07:06 GMT
The Beeb hasn't raised its head from its own navel since The Sachs Incident. Getting very, very tedious now.
By the way and as an aside - when Clarkson called Brown a one-eyed Scottish idiot, why did the Scots MPs get all arsey about the use of "Scottish"? Surely it's not racist to say someone is Scottish if they are in fact Scottish?
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Post by flatandy on Feb 11, 2009 9:11:00 GMT
It's racist to use Scottish as an insult, though. It wasn't a neutral adjective here. By association Clarkson was implying that all Scots are as bad as Brown, which is quite offensive, really.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 11, 2009 9:11:24 GMT
Well, maybe not "racist", but nasty and offensive against a separate group.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 9:13:39 GMT
Was he? I guess you could assume it was meant in a negative way in the context, but I don't see how it extends to all Scots.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 11, 2009 9:15:24 GMT
Well, if "Scottish" is an insult, here, the implication is that it's the Scottishness that makes Brown Brown-like. Which, therefore, implies that all the rest of the Scots are the same. And, whilst many of them, far more than in any normal country, are miserable, fun hating, dour and useless, it's wrong to suggest they all are, and to tar all by the association.
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Post by mids on Feb 11, 2009 9:16:16 GMT
The Beeb hasn't raised its head from its own navel since The Sachs Incident. Getting very, very tedious now. By the way and as an aside - when Clarkson called Brown a one-eyed Scottish idiot, why did the Scots MPs get all arsey about the use of "Scottish"? Surely it's not racist to say someone is Scottish if they are in fact Scottish? Well you've got your lot to thank for that. if he was black and Sir Jeremy had said 'one-eyed black idiot' he'd have been arrested and sacked on the spot. So your, lot having decided that someone's background used in conjunction with an insult is the most heinous and offensive thing eva, can't really complain when others' apply the same rules. Innit? |
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 9:17:09 GMT
Yeah ok, I get that.
Of course not all Scots are dour and fun hating. Billy Connolly, um, that one with the glasses who's on that topical show, er, and Armando Ianucci are all Scottish and possessed of a sense of humour.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 9:19:43 GMT
Oh, I think it would be a heinous insult to call someone Scottish, Mids. I was just surprised to find so many Scots agreeing with me.
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Post by tarrant on Feb 11, 2009 11:59:13 GMT
Why don't you set one up, then? Because, clearly, nobody else has really seen a need to. ................... So you're, basically, arguing for the existence of the white police association so it can do absolutely nothing, because the only state of discrimination against the white police is the lack of the white police association. It's a bizarrely insane logic you're using here. Society won't accept exclusively white organisations. But the issue here is the very social inclusion that we all seek. We can never have an inclusive society as long as some groups set themselves apart from others. If a policeman who happens to be black, for example, is experiencing any problems because of the colour of his skin then he should be getting the support from all of his collegues. If a Black Policeman's organisation is necessary then it indicates that there is a serious problem. The very existance of the Black Policeman's organisation is both an indication and a tolerance of those problems. |
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 12:02:17 GMT
Society won't accept exclusively white organisations. Oh dear, has anyone told the Royal Family? |
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