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[sweet soul]

Britain bans Dutch far-right MP who planned to show anti-Islam film at the House of LordsBy Michael Lea
Last updated at 9:39 AM on 11th February 2009
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Banned from the UK: Geert Wilders was due to show his film Fitna, linking Islamic texts with the 9/11 atrocity, at the House of Lords
A bitter diplomatic row erupted today after Britain banned a controversial Right-wing Dutch politician from the UK.
Geert Wilders had been invited by the Ukip peer Lord Pearson to show his anti-Islam film 'Fitna' and hold a Q&A session in Parliament tomorrow.

The 17-minute documentary features verses from the Koran - which it brands a 'fascist book' - alongside images of the 9/11 and 7/7 terrorist attacks. It equates Islam's holy text with violence and ends with a call to Muslims to remove its 'hate-preaching' verses.
After being alerted to the private screening, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith barred Mr Wilders on the grounds that his visit was a threat to 'community harmony and therefore public security'.
But the move brought a furious response from the Dutch foreign minister Maxime Verhagen - a political opponent of Mr Wilders - who complained directly to the Foreign Secretary David Miliband in a 'curt' telephone call.
'The fact that a Dutch parliamentarian is refused entry to another EU country is highly regrettable,' he said.
However, Britain is refusing to give way, even though Mr Wilders is a democratically-elected politician and the leader of a legitimate political party.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1141622/Britain-bans-Dutch-far-Right-MP-planned-anti-Islam-film-House-Lords.html

[sweet soul]

The Home Office refused to comment on the individual case of Mr Wilders.
But a spokesman said: 'The Government opposes extremism in all its forms. It will stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country.
'We endorse the original condemnation of the film 'Fitna' by the Dutch Government, and feel that it serves no constructive purpose.
'The British Government has absolutely no connection with any screening of this film that may take place in the House of Lords or anywhere else in the UK. It is a matter for the House of Lords or any other venue as to whether they choose to show it.
'Freedom of speech is a fundamental right, but one that must be used responsibly and not as a cover for causing offence and division. We fully appreciate the sensitivities around the portrayal of any religious figure or text.'
The film was originally to have been shown last month but the screening was cancelled following fierce protests from the UK's Muslim community.
Supporters of free sppech also condemned the move by Britain. Tory MEP Daniel Hannan said: 'It's true that Geert Wilders is a controversialist, who takes pleasure in causing offence. I wouldn't vote for him if I were Dutch.
'But what I think of him is neither here nor there. Freedom means the freedom to express any opinion, however eccentric, however offensive. The Dutch foreign minister, a political opponent of Mr Wilders, has complained to David Miliband. Good for him.
'Whether our government is actuated by cowardice or authoritarianism, it's equally ugly. We are a meaner country than we were this morning.'
A Foreign Office spokesman refused to comment on the diplonatic row, saying simply: 'The two ministers spoke today.'
Mr Wilders has urged that the Dutch government to ban the Koran in the same way it did Adolf Hitler's book 'Mein Kampf' and warned of a 'tsunami' of Islam swamping the Netherlands.
He is currently facing prosecution in Amsterdam for incitement to hatred and discrimination, a rarely punished crime in the generally liberal Netherlands which carries a maximum one-year prison term.
As a result of hs controversial views, he has lived for five years with round-the-clock security because of his fierce criticism of Islam.
His Freedom Party holds nine of the Dutch parliament's 120 seats.

[VikingHumpingWitch]

Feb 11, 2009 9:50:45 GMT sweet soul said:

The Government opposes extremism in all its forms. It will stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country.

Sounds good to me.

[mars33]

No, sounds bad. Very bad indeed. Wilders is a total thingy who's politics are little more a rant against Islam, but banning him only gives him the publicity he wants.
Why they want to show a one-sided film that tells nothing news but uses footage and sound bits in a propaganda style to steer up emotions in the House of Lords is a total mystery to me.

[cobblers]

Wilders doesn't promote/advocate violence and hatred, he is merely exposing the violence and hatred inherent in Islam which informs jihadism.

The narrative we are being fed by our governments and the media is false. That there is a nice mainstream Islam which the jihadists have perverted. It's false.

Mainstream Islam advocates sharia law for all, hatred for/subjugation of the other, capital and corporal punishment for behaviour which we would not even consider criminal (adultery) or reprehensible (apostacy or changing your religion from Islam).

I thought Fitnah was shallow and didn't explain things adequately, but I welcome it because it is punchy and at least departs from the false narrative fed us by (most of) the media and our governments.

If Wilders is arrested at Heathrow, so much the better because it will get people talking about this. The truth will out eventually, although I think it will be another 20 years before everyone catches on to what we are dealing with.

"The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see."

[anotherlevel]

DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS -UN
Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

But some of you spout this when it suits you !!!

[vania]

Feb 11, 2009 10:41:38 GMT mars33 said:

No, sounds bad. Very bad indeed. Wilders is a total thingy who's politics are little more a rant against Islam, but banning him only gives him the publicity he wants.
Why they want to show a one-sided film that tells nothing news but uses footage and sound bits in a propaganda style to steer up emotions in the House of Lords is a total mystery to me.

I hate when people say this as it is all of a nonsense. 'Give him publicity'? And? So? They banned Farrakhan which probably gave hum 'publicity'. Fat lot of good that did for him.

[bertrus2]

Wilders has been refused entry on the grounds that he's a threat to public order. That's very peculiar since the actual threat comes from those who object to his views.

[lala]

Does this Fitna bollocks really need another thread?

[sweet soul]

Yes cos it news lala. Unlike the thread u made called ' Who is the most stupid in this group' . Which got moved to Chit Chat :-) haha hoho too funny! :-)

[VikingHumpingWitch]

Feb 11, 2009 22:02:31 GMT anotherlevel said:

DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS -UN
Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

But some of you spout this when it suits you !!!

Whilst we're on hypocrisy, I note with amusement that Mr Wilders' Freedom Party was recently at the forefront of calls to ban radical Islamic preacher, Khalid Hasin, from speaking in the Netherlands. The phrase suck it up springs to mind.

[sweet soul]

Cobbs, theres something on skynews about him coming here. Have to see. If its today :-)

[Deleted]

Nah, this is bollocks. We're fighting amongst ourselves here because we lack the moral and cultural confidence to stand up for anything. We don't even have the spine to support our own posturing human rights legislation which we're always so keen to hold out as an exemplar of how bloody progressive we are.

Not only that, but our government isn't even certain enough of its own grounds for acting in this manner to comment on it.

Curt call from the Dutch? I should bloody well think so. Yey again, we are shown up as gutless, feckless wonders to people who are our closest natural friends and allies.

[Amazed]

Despite Ban, Dutch Lawmaker Vows to Visit 'Cowardly' Britain
Dutch politician Geert Wilders says he's flying to Great Britain despite a government order banning him from entering the country, and he's daring the "weak and cowardly" British government to arrest him when he gets there.

"I'll see what happens at the border. Let them put me in handcuffs," Wilders told Radio Netherlands in an interview Wednesday.

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491126,00.html

[Amazed]

He looks... erm...
Stuff for your nightmares.

[mids]

He looks like a knob. Still, it's weird that he's been banned when all sorts of offensive freaks who are best mates with Ken Livingstone have been allowed in.

[flatandy]

I think we should ban all orange people from Britain. Sue Barker, Kilroy Silk and this bloke.

Do you think he's gone orange from drinking too much sunny delight? Or is it a patriotic gesture?

[dwad]

Sweet mercy! Was he just banned for looking like a paedophile in reality?

[sweet soul]

Dutch MP banned from Britain for wanting to show anti-Islam film may be stopped from leaving Holland
By Steve Doughty
Last updated at 11:03 AM on 12th February 2009
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Banned from the UK: Geert Wilders was due to show his film Fitna, linking Islamic texts with the 9/11 atrocity, at the House of Lords
A right-wing Dutch politician banned from visiting the UK over his anti-Islam views may not be allowed to leave Holland today, his party said.
Geert Wilders was invited to Westminster to show his 17-minute film Fitna, which criticises the Koran as a 'fascist book', by a member of the House of Lords.

But on Tuesday he received a letter from the Home Office refusing him entry because his opinions 'would threaten community security and therefore public security' in the UK.

Mr Wilders, a member of Holland's Freedom Party, condemned the British Government as 'weak and cowardly' and vowed he would make the trip anyway.

He was due to fly into Heathrow airport this afternoon, but it now appears he may stopped from boarding his flight.

A Freedom Party spokesman said he feared that airline BMI would not let Mr Wilders get on the aircraft.

He added: 'I'm not sure that he will ever set foot in Britain - at this point it is not even sure that he can be on his flight.'

BMI refused to confirm whether Mr Wilders had booked a flight with the airline, citing data protection laws.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1141622/Dutch-MP-banned-Britain-wanting-anti-Islam-film-stopped-leaving-Holland.html

[mars33]

Come on, let him in. And keep him there, please.