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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 12, 2009 16:05:23 GMT
Exactly Vic. Herring farmers, boat builders, lumberjacks, sauna engineers. But not "recruitment" for pity's sake.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 12, 2009 16:05:29 GMT
Look, you really can't rely on these online translation gubbins. Because, you know, that's really not captured the meaning (or indeed words) of my signature.
A key thing which attracts me to this job is its complete absence of any connection with recruitment.
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Post by Victor Meldrew on Feb 12, 2009 16:11:30 GMT
I know, Viking. I ran it through an alternative translation site, and it's far more threatening than that.  OK you win. You have my utmost respect, because you know where my house lives, apparently. |
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Post by tarrant on Feb 12, 2009 16:24:16 GMT
I can then take it that you've never worked at the Ipswich General (first ever UK case of a new born baby dying of MRSA), or the James Paget Hospital in Norfolk, where wards have been closed due to health scares. No and no. When my mum was in the Royal London Hospital in east London, I couldn't believe the state of the place. I even noticed how infrequently the nursing staff bothered to use the antibacterial handwash facilities as they moved from one patient to another. Absolutlely disgusting! We didn't have bacterial hand wash. There was hibiscrub at every sink but we generally only washed our hands at the beginning of a shift or if we had touched something contaminated. We didn't have all these infections. MRSA was heard of but very rare. |
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Post by feral on Feb 12, 2009 16:36:25 GMT
What an entertaining thread .
I must say I agree with tarrant -we're all influenced by media hype and peer pressure whether we believe we are or not .I, for one ,tend to deliberately not buy something that has been advertised loads on TV .Which in its way is just as nonsensical as buying it cos you have seen it advertised loads on TV
I find it highly amusing also that Omni finds that people who base their ( opposing) opinions on what they have been fed by the media etc etc are a little bit dim .Which of course leads me to ask where Omni gets his opinons from .First hand contact all over or from reading articles,books and watching TV ?
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 12, 2009 16:49:44 GMT
I find it highly amusing also that Omni finds that people who base their ( opposing) opinions on what they have been fed by the media etc etc are a little bit dim Where does he say this? |
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 12, 2009 17:16:05 GMT
"we're all influenced by media hype"
ummmm that's my point though.
I don't think it's dim so much as perfectly reasonable disinterest, apathy etc. People have got more important things to worry about, so they just tend to absorb the background noise of media narrative. Drip drip drip.
Which is, of course, why advertising and marketing are multi-gaillion pound industries - because they know people are actually pretty easy to influence on the whole.
And on the political influence of the media - put it this way - if I took control of every newspaper and every TV station in the country tomorrow, who do you think would win the next general election?
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Post by feral on Feb 12, 2009 17:25:58 GMT
lmao .The tories without a doubt
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 12, 2009 17:27:46 GMT
Haha.
You know what I mean.
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Post by lawrencegrenville on Feb 12, 2009 17:28:26 GMT
lmao .The tories without a doubt I hope so, otherwise I shall be forced to emigrate  |
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Post by feral on Feb 12, 2009 17:45:37 GMT
Haha. You know what I mean. I do indeed . It's a very two edged sword I think .Years ago ,before TV's and the internet people well less well informed and far more limited in how far they could form opinions .Now they have the world at their fingertips more or less but are mostly content to get their opinions formed for them . You most definitely can't escape being influenced but I do think that people arent selective enough .I mean if something sounds like nonsense it probably is no matter how many say " no it isnt " ...or if you arent sure if it is or not then dont form an opinion on it till youve found out by using your very own experience |
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 12, 2009 18:00:47 GMT
Yeah. That's why I think the "internet has led to an information revolution" etc etc blah blah stuff is a load of old cack.
No it hasn't. We still get the same old information from the same old sources. It's just online.
We read the BBC website, Sun readers go to the Sun website etc etc.
Like, just because Hansard might be more easily available doesn't mean anyone is using it for their political knowledge intake.
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Post by feral on Feb 12, 2009 18:17:36 GMT
mmm yes and no .I think people who want to be more informed ,easily,can be with the internet.I ,for one, read much more news now and from papers I never bought or read before the internet.Cos its so easy to click on it..and its FREE . I'm one of those people who reads a story in the sun online and then looks to see if its corroborated in any way by any other newspaper.I can see quite clearly that there are very many who dont do the same but at the same time I can see that there are many who do -which is why I called it a two edged sword .The information is there if you can be arsed to seek it out .
Another thing as well about the internet is that its very easy to see the opinion of Joe Public on many things ..through forums ,groups ,blogs etc etc etc whereas before you only knew what the media told you it was .Its fecking frightening actually -before the internet I was under the presumption that there were a few nutters and the rest were relatively sane and then you come online and find its the other way round .
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 12, 2009 18:27:37 GMT
"its very easy to see the opinion of Joe Public on many things ..through forums ,groups ,blogs etc etc etc "
Oooh no no no-y no no. Blogs and message boards don't show you the opinion of Joe Public. They show you the opinion of bloggers and message board freaks. Who are, still, a small and particular section of society.
Which, funnily enough, brings me back to the topic of the thread. A lot of people think that the wacky world of webchatter represents the mood of the nation - including many mainstream media types.
The Tories (like Obama in the US) have cottoned on to this big time, and have armies of people out there posting and rumourmongering and what have you, which in turn helps create the overall pro-Tory and anti-Labour mood that feeds into the mainstream media, which in turn will probably get that useless rightwing tw@tface Thatcherite bloodsucking poor-hating moral-free snake oil salesman Cameron elected.
I suppose it's just the way "democracy" works these days - it's all marketing, not policy, not the state of the country. And I'd love it if Labour had the upper hand in the PR war, obviously. But as it is, MAN does it piss me off...
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Post by feral on Feb 12, 2009 18:43:45 GMT
I half agree with you but only half cos there are people like you ( and me ) who think that its a wacky world of webchatters and half < cough>of them appear to be completely and utterly barmy .However i also tend to think that in the wacky world of anonymous web chatterers people are more wont to show their true opinions cos theres little fear they'll get a punch on the nose because of them .The things people opine to on the web arent the things they'll opine to you if theyre sitting next to you on a bus .
I also think in a way youre proving a point ( I'm not too sure who's however ) by saying that the tories have cottoned on big time and are using the web as a propoganda field .I think if you asked a staunch tory he'd say it was the other way round.I'm not a fan of either and see both doing it .It's where you look and what you see and what sticks in your throat as gall .
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Post by Rude Eric on Feb 13, 2009 1:08:04 GMT
this is just it. wee need more propper woking cvlass people to post on the internet. wee need to give free pcs to the diaaavatgedted peele so they they can refute the thing theya all the ulta rite wigers say one gr
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