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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 11, 2009 17:23:19 GMT
Taliban kill 26 in attacks on Afghan govt buildingsTaliban militants launched suicide bomb and gun attacks on three Afghan government buildings in Kabul on Wednesday, killing at least 26 people in one of their most daring assaults on the capital. The defence ministry said eight suicide attackers also died in the near-simultaneous strikes on the prisons directorate, and justice and education ministries -- the deadliest insurgent attacks in Afghanistan so far this year. More at: AFP
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 17:25:27 GMT
Erm, it's a war, things like this do happen sometimes in wars. You might as well blame the West as Islam, since it wouldn't have happened if we hadn't gone in and ousted them in the first place.
Honestly, you've obviously got a brain capable of rational thought, why don't you use it more often?
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 11, 2009 17:34:41 GMT
It war when "we" kill innocent people.
It's terrorism when "they" do.
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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 11, 2009 17:34:41 GMT
And what "war" would that be? Last I checked, a war required two armies. So what's with this psedo-army of Jihadi animals blowing themselves up at a civilian institution? It sounds exactly like what they are do from time to time in India, Russia, Israel, Philippines, Thailand, European countries and other places. Of course, none of these distinct theatres of the global ideological struggle against Islamic totalitarianism would have occurred if....errr...America didn't fight back after 9/11. It's the west's fault.
Yeah! Keep the blinkers on!
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 17:39:18 GMT
I don't think it's the West's fault. I said that is an equally ludicrous contention as yours that this attack is Islam's fault. If you oust someone from power, don't be surprised if they attack you afterwards. Grief, THINK boy.
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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 11, 2009 17:48:35 GMT
I don't think it's the West's fault. I said that is an equally ludicrous contention as yours that this attack is Islam's fault. If you oust someone from power, don't be surprised if they attack you afterwards. Grief, THINK boy. Did you even bother reading the launch article, or is logic deduction failing you again? They attacked a prison, and the justice and education ministries of the elected Afghan government, not the west. |
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 11, 2009 17:50:03 GMT
BEASTS!
The RoP (see what I did there with abbreviating that!? Clever huh!) is full of BEASTS!
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 17:51:35 GMT
Sorry, I'll give the full explanation then.
If the West had not removed the Taliban they would still be in power. As they aren't, they are attacking the current Afghan government. This is called a war. Afghanistan has had a lot of it over many years. In wars, sometimes people blow up buildings. Israel did it in Gaza recently, as you may have seen on the telly.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 17:54:23 GMT
The point I'm trying to make though, my little feathered friend, is that you undermine yourself massively with this RoP obsession. Islam did not blow up those buildings, Taliban fighters did. You might as well say Judhaism blew up the UN building in Gaza. You would look equally stupid.
If you want people to take your views seriously you need to lay off the anti-Islamic slant on these sort of stories. Because it makes you look like any common or garden bigot, and I happen to think more of you than that so I wonder why you don't even try to do yourself justice.
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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 11, 2009 17:58:33 GMT
Riiiiiight! According to this perverse logic of yours, if (say) the Labour Party was ousted from power in your next elections, their supporters would be justified to blow up buildings - it's called "war" when you lose power, according to you. Do you ever stop to reconsider your twisted logic? As for Gaza, you *seriously* believe that Israel launched a military operation because of the identity of Gaza's leadership, not because of missiles raining down on Israeli cities on a daily basis. (rolls eyes)
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 18:00:48 GMT
No, I don't say it is justified. But Afghanis have been suffering such attacks for a lot longer than you've been following it. The point is that is about power. It's not Islam launching these attacks, it is people. Just as it was not Juddaism launching them on Gaza, despite the attempts of others of a similar mindset to you to portray it as such.
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Post by Gort on Feb 11, 2009 18:03:55 GMT
I think the point is the taliban do these acts in the name of Islam as they only do things in the name of islam as islam is all the think about 24/7. They even think of islam while taking a shhit and when the cargo plops into the water it is followed by (Alla hu akbar) much as we would just go (Aaahhh)
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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 11, 2009 18:08:37 GMT
No, I don't say it is justified. But Afghanis have been suffering such attacks for a lot longer than you've been following it. The point is that is about power. It's not Islam launching these attacks, it is people. Just as it was not Juddaism launching them on Gaza, despite the attempts of others of a similar mindset to you to portray it as such. Wrong comparison yet again. The Taliban's goal is to (re)establish their perverted Islamic utopia. It has everything to do with Islam. The only part you got right is that self defence by Israel has nothing to do with religion whatsoever. |
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 11, 2009 18:12:54 GMT
Oh good grief, I don't know why I bother. OK yes, rockets were launched by a religion. Nobody has ever used religion as a way to get power, so it can't be a normal war between two sides trying to take/keep control of a region. It's not even as if the current Afghan government are Muslims, so clearly this is about imposing Islam.
Just don't ever ask me why your threads are never taken seriously.
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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 11, 2009 18:19:44 GMT
"rockets were launched by a religion"
The rockets were indeed launched as a result of religious belief. Try reading Hamas' Charter - it may enlighten you what it says.
"It's not even as if the current Afghan government are Muslims, so clearly this is about imposing islam."
Ever try to take off your blinkers? If you did, you may just manage to deduce that the Taliban (and every other Islamist organisation) are carrying out Jihad because they think the Afghan government (and other Muslim governments) are "not Muslim enough." It is indeed about imposing Islam - it's imposing more of it.
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 11, 2009 18:21:51 GMT
It wasn't very nice when The Jews blew up all those UN hospitals and ambulances with their Jewish bombs though either, was it?
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Post by cobblers on Feb 11, 2009 18:41:33 GMT
The point I'm trying to make though, my little feathered friend, is that you undermine yourself massively with this RoP obsession. Islam did not blow up those buildings, Taliban fighters did. You might as well say Judhaism blew up the UN building in Gaza. You would look equally stupid. If you want people to take your views seriously you need to lay off the anti-Islamic slant on these sort of stories. Because it makes you look like any common or garden bigot, and I happen to think more of you than that so I wonder why you don't even try to do yourself justice. And there is no connection between the Taliban and Islam, is that what youre saying VHW? |
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Post by tarrant on Feb 11, 2009 20:14:14 GMT
Riiiiiight! According to this perverse logic of yours, if (say) the Labour Party was ousted from power in your next elections, their supporters would be justified to blow up buildings - it's called "war" when you lose power, according to you. Not quite the same though, is it. If Labour are ousted from power it will be in an election. Their supporters will then attempt to regain power by the same route. The Taliban were ousted from power by a foreign military force. Their supporters are now trying to regain power by the same route. I think the point is the taliban do these acts in the name of Islam as they only do things in the name of islam as islam is all the think about 24/7. That is probably true. But that is not the same as Islam justifying what they do. |
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Post by bertrus2 on Feb 11, 2009 20:14:53 GMT
The rockets were indeed launched as a result of religious belief. Try reading Hamas' Charter - it may enlighten you what it says. Whereas the belief that God gave the Promised Land to his Chosen People isn't in any way religious and firing rockets at the non-Chosen People isn't intended to further this belief in any way. |
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