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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 12, 2009 18:06:19 GMT
No, America didn't. But Britain has just turned away a man who's dedicated his life courageously exposing and fighting Islamofascism - the totalitarian threat of our age - while risking his life doing so. Shame. Anti-Islamist politician Geert Wilders refused entry to BritainThe far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders was turned away from Heathrow today after testing the Home Secretary’s ban on him entering the country. Immigration officials denied the Dutch MP entry to the country after the Government decided he should not be allowed to attend a screening of his controversial anti-Islamist film tonight. Mr Wilders said: "I am in a detention centre at Heathrow ... I am detained. They took my passport. I will not be allowed to enter the country. They will send me back within a few hours.” On his flight to London, he told The Times that the British Government was “the biggest bunch of cowards in Europe”. More at: The Times
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Post by luckysprite on Feb 12, 2009 18:10:30 GMT
You would though of course be more than happy to let in say.... Abu Hamza if he wanted to tour and give the opposite view... and let him preach and then let him leave unharmed..
Wouldn't you??..... of course you would...
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Post by puffin on Feb 12, 2009 18:15:42 GMT
You're comparing Wilders with Solzhenitsyn ?
Now I know you've lost it.
He is an extreme Right wing racist. A white supremacist and hatemonger of the worst kind.
Stirring up racial and religious hatred is against the law in this country. Anyone who doesn't like it is urged to stay away. We don't need them. We have too many already.
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Post by bertrus2 on Feb 12, 2009 18:17:28 GMT
Is this a 'turning away at the border' thread? If so, did Israel turn away Norman Finkelstein? Answer, 'Yes'.
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Post by omnipleasant on Feb 12, 2009 18:30:05 GMT
Puffin's post is so spot on I'm going to bugger off to the pub and drink to it.
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Post by bertrus2 on Feb 12, 2009 18:31:52 GMT
'Controversial' academic Norman Finkelstein was denied entry to Israel, although he was only intending to go to transit through Tel Aviv Airport to go to Palestine. There's no airport in Palestine, since it has been destroyed in a murderous rampage by the Israelis.
05.28.2008 | The Jerusalem Post By Michal Lando and Yaakov Katz
Controversial academic Norman Finkelstein, who was refused entry into Israel last week, said Wednesday that he has not yet decided whether to pursue his case in court.
The Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) detained and deported Finkelstein, who is a prominent critic of the Israeli occupation, when he landed at Ben-Gurion International Airport on Friday. He was interrogated for several hours and held in an airport holding cell before being returned to Amsterdam, where he had been lecturing. Finkelstein said he was told he could not return to Israel for at least 10 years.
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Post by Amazed on Feb 12, 2009 18:54:15 GMT
For the first time I miss the recommend button. A BIG for Puffin's post!
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Post by evenstar on Feb 12, 2009 20:01:23 GMT
You're comparing Wilders with Solzhenitsyn ? Now I know you've lost it. He is an extreme Right wing racist. A white supremacist and hatemonger of the worst kind. Stirring up racial and religious hatred is against the law in this country. Anyone who doesn't like it is urged to stay away. We don't need them. We have too many already. *thumbs up icon*
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Post by lala on Feb 12, 2009 22:22:04 GMT
So that's three threads about the Fitna bollocks. Why are rightie anti-Semites so bloody self-important every little bowel-motion and fartling of their self-promoting egotistical heroes has to be reported in triplicate?
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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 13, 2009 1:16:59 GMT
Wilders and Solzhenitsyn were lone voices of reason and righteousness who are/were willing to risk their lives to fight against a totalitarian system. In Solzhenitsyn's case, it was Communist tyranny; in Wilders' case, it is Islamic tyranny.
It is not surprising to see those whose politics places anyone not to the left of Chamberlain as "extreme right" would jerk hard at the knee. To be against ISLAM and ISLAMIC immigration is NOT RACIST. There is no such thing as an Islamic race. To be against Islamic tyranny is commonsense.
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Post by Charles Martel on Feb 13, 2009 1:22:38 GMT
So that's three threads about the Fitna bollocks. Why are rightie anti-Semites so bloody self-important every little bowel-motion and fartling of their self-promoting egotistical heroes has to be reported in triplicate? It is unsuprising to see la la propagate another blatant lie. Wilders is NOT an anti-Semite. Wilders enjoys excellent relations with the Jewish community, and has repeatedly spoke of the need to confront Islamic hatred in order to safeguard Jews from another Holocaust. Wilders is a friend of Israel (just as he is a friend to America, India, etc) and was welcomed to that country on several occasions.
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Post by Rude Eric on Feb 13, 2009 2:09:54 GMT
The Government opposes extremism in all its forms. It will stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country.
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Post by puffin on Feb 13, 2009 2:13:22 GMT
Many muslims are also semites.
There is no islamic totalitarian state in Holland. Wilders has not been imprisoned or exiled from his country because of his views. Solzhenitzyn spoke out against the rulers of his country. Wilders is focussing his bile on a religion and it's book.Not on extremists, but on the religion and all those who practice it. Solzhenitzyn didn't seek to restrict access to his country and others by members of any religion, or country, and he definitely didn't seek to exclude, marginalise or demonise any group of people because of their faith and the fact that they read a book regularly. No comparison.
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Post by lala on Feb 13, 2009 2:47:52 GMT
It is unsuprising to see la la propagate another blatant lie. Wilders is NOT an anti-Semite. I never said he was. If you re-read my post with due attention, you'll see that.
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Post by lala on Feb 13, 2009 9:25:45 GMT
Oh, we turned Trotsky away when he was fleeing Stalinist oppression. Perhaps that is a more apt comparison.
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Post by thenomad on Feb 13, 2009 9:48:53 GMT
Meanwhile no where in his film has Wilders encouraged anyone to use violence against the death cult that is Islam
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Post by lala on Feb 13, 2009 9:56:00 GMT
Of course not. He's just saiud it is a vile dangerous thing that will eat us alive live a multi-headed hydra of the deep circling the gates of Europe. Not at all designed to provoke or incite anything. Mere artistry. Just like ** GODWIN'S LAW VIOLATION ALERT ** Reifenstahls's Olympiad doesn't have subtitles saying "Look how fine and superior the Aryan athletes are compared to the golliwogs."
I can say that. The queen said so.
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Post by thenomad on Feb 13, 2009 9:58:51 GMT
So you agree he does not incite violence against Muslims
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Post by imam on Feb 13, 2009 10:02:04 GMT
To mention a Nobel prize winner like Alexander Solzhenitsyn and this Dutch weirdo Wilders in the same breath is a measure of your retarded intellect PK. Why did America let you in ?
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Post by lala on Feb 13, 2009 10:02:26 GMT
That is not what you said in #15.
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