Garden ponds - KILL children

[sushimo]

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From: Rude Eric (Original Message) Sent: 08/07/2003 01:45

The Daily Mirror has conducted a long-running campaign for garden ponds to be filled in. A coroner echoed the demand last month at the inquest into the death of 22-month-old Andrew Condon, who died at Birmingham's Children's Hospital two days after being found floating face-down in a pond at his Kidderminster home. Coroner Victor Round said he had recently fenced off the pond in his own garden and told the hearing: "We really ought to think about fencing our garden ponds and water features of any kind."

Mr Round revealed he was compiling a report for the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents and the Royal Lifesaving Society and warned: "It only takes a few inches of water to drown a child."

I will just let you refelct on the type of person that can afford a "water feature" - And their probable general indifference to the rest of us.

[sushimo]

Message 2 of 70 in Discussion

From: GrannyWeatherwax Sent: 08/07/2003 02:46

Eric, I am unsure what you mean by "water feature. A garden pond is very different from a swimming pool, BUT BOTH SHOULD BE FENCED.


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From: ßeachcomber Sent: 08/07/2003 02:51

I was in Australia (Queensland) earlier this year and - by law - all ponds and swimming pools on private property must be fenced off.

PS
I take exception to your last comment......I've got a 'water feature' in my garden !

(mind you - it's only a bird bath.....does that count?)


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From: California-Fey Sent: 08/07/2003 03:13

Hmm, I have a 'water feature'..............a charming little fairy holding a shell (hiding the water pump that pumps the water that falls from the shell, into the small pool below. The 'pool' below is a 2 1/2 foot by 10 inch deep rubber horse feeding 'pail', $14 at Walmart, and the fairy pump was on sale for $28,) very charming~) so, a 'water feature' is not necessarily expensive. I happen to have my fenced off because if I don't the bloody racoons tear it up............. but, no ones small children belong in my yard anyway!!!!! (My attack rose bushes will get them!!)


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From: Hammerheađ Sent: 08/07/2003 03:17

I will just let you reflect on the type of person that can afford a "water feature" "birdbath" "balcony" "window" "stairs" "road beyond the bloody front yard" - And their probable general indifference to the rest of us.

ffs


Message 6 of 70 in Discussion

From: fеral Sent: 08/07/2003 06:53

There's an old bath sunk into our garden .....and I must say it's true what Eric says ....I'm indifferent to the rest of you


Message 7 of 70 in Discussion

From: american teepee dweller Sent: 08/07/2003 07:45

have you heard about electric lights in bottom of pools and how hot tubs suck people to death? as well as pools drains?


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From: Rockers Sent: 08/07/2003 09:38

"I will just let you refelct on the type of person that can afford a "water feature" - And their probable general indifference to the rest of us."

fecking priceless!!!! I've read it all now!! If you've got a hole filled with water in your garden your a fat cat toff tory who cares nothing for society!!


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From: Mids Sent: 08/07/2003 09:50

A teenage mother whose baby was mauled by a pet ferret has been cleared of neglecting the child.

The boy, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, was scarred for life after suffering multiple puncture wounds to his face, hands and arms in what the Crown described as a "significant and prolonged attack."

www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_796223.html?menu

I will just let you reflect on the type of person that can afford a "ferret" - And their probable general indifference to the rest of us.





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Message 12 of 70 in Discussion

From: Policecar Sent: 08/07/2003 10:01

we filled our pond in because of the kiddies - one day I went out and there were all these frogs hopping around looking somewhat confused. It was rather sad really. Still they're all dead now.


Message 13 of 70 in Discussion

From: maintsghost Sent: 08/07/2003 10:10

Garden ponds are also a great danger to tortoises.

Which is much stronger reason for filling them in, actually.


Message 14 of 70 in Discussion

From: ßeachcomber Sent: 08/07/2003 11:16

"Ponds don't kill people - people kill people"

(New bumper sticker I'm having made)


Message 15 of 70 in Discussion

From: HELLSNOANGEL Sent: 08/07/2003 11:25

My sister has a pond and as soon as her eldest could walk, they nicked a big metal grill off of a building site and covered it. (So it needed cost you anything!!) and they still keep a constant eye on him in the garden. He has been taught to use his golf clubs or the fish net to retrieve balls off of the grill!!


Message 16 of 70 in Discussion

From: BALERNO Sent: 08/07/2003 11:35

I thought this was a strange subject for Red Eric ,i thought as I read it that there was hope for him yet . and then , I should know better " what sort of person can afford this " ---what a hate-filled , envious person Eric is .....


Message 17 of 70 in Discussion

From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 08/07/2003 11:41

maybe Red Eric is some sort of online Ali G thing?


Message 18 of 70 in Discussion

From: DrowsyJohnyG Sent: 08/07/2003 12:09

Garden Ponds Kill Children!!!
No, lack of parental control kills children.


Message 19 of 70 in Discussion

From: maintsghost Sent: 08/07/2003 12:12

what a hate-filled , envious person Eric is

Imagine being so envious, you're envious of the sort of person who has a water feature...


Message 20 of 70 in Discussion

From: Rockers Sent: 08/07/2003 12:19

LOL

I can imagine the guy staring enviously over peoples garden hedges with a shovel full of dirt in his hand ready to fill water features of the toffs etc etc


Message 21 of 70 in Discussion

From: maintsghost Sent: 08/07/2003 12:20

Die, Charlie Dimmock, Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


Message 22 of 70 in Discussion

From: BALERNO Sent: 08/07/2003 12:21

Bloody capitalist scum with their water-features , cars , foreign holidays etc etc .
And I bet they breed fish for sale in their ponds and resell at huge profits . How right Eric is .


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From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 12:55

My pond's 20 feet by 30 feet by 4feet deep. Just think how many children I can fit in there.


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From: al-leaf Sent: 08/07/2003 13:00

I was going to buy a house with three ponds in it. Two, your everyday fishponds and one that was f**k**g massive with an electric cover and about the size of a small swimming pool. The people selling the house were fish-crazy and I've a five year old son, even though we loved the house, we would have had to fill in all three ponds if we wanted it, but there was about £10k on top of the house price because of the water features. The risk of our son drowning was too great, cue images of Don't Look Back'.


Message 27 of 70 in Discussion

From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 13:05

1 mile deep and filled with wee more like. Yours doesn't slide aside to launch thunderbird 1 though does it bog face.


Message 28 of 70 in Discussion

From: DocCruel Sent: 08/07/2003 13:09

Used to have problems with this sort of thing, but ever since I filled the marble fonts with sulfuric acid it's stopped.

Mind you, still have to retain a Spaniard to clear away the occasional dead cat or two (aquatic birds tend to dissolve without much fuss). Also putting up an overhead cover and proper rain runoffs, so as not to have the acid diluted, are musts.


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Message 30 of 70 in Discussion

From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 13:11

If you surround the perimeter with olbas oil it keeps wildlife away, and at the same time place an island in the centre piled high with brightly coloured sweets to tempt in the nippers.


Message 31 of 70 in Discussion

From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 13:16

Millenium falcon? Is it painted pink? I've got the Rodger Young in my garage you Lucaswhore.

[sushimo]

Message 32 of 70 in Discussion

From: al-leaf Sent: 08/07/2003 13:20

At least the nippers won't have blocked noses and should sink straight to the bottom.


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 08/07/2003 13:25

to think the noble tradition of class war has come down to bitching about someone having a "water feature". tsk.


Message 35 of 70 in Discussion

From: al-leaf Sent: 08/07/2003 13:32

I drive my Range Rover into my water feature to clean the hunt sabetuor's blood off and let the hounds in to cool down.


Message 36 of 70 in Discussion

From: Barnip Sent: 08/07/2003 13:34

S what's known as survival of the fittest! Any kid dumb enough to drown in a couple o feet o water wouldn't have lasted long anyway. It's like the kids that stick the washing machine on and climb inside! Some people you just can't help!


Message 37 of 70 in Discussion

From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 13:37

All life came from the waters, I think that's why we have the urge to return there. In the case of children I think it should be encouraged.


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From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 13:41

Run! Run and play with the fishes!


Message 41 of 70 in Discussion

From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 13:43

A lot of the kids you see about these days are composed of 70% lard.



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From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 13:52

But all that tudge they're carrying around would make them buoyant. Then again it would burn well so it could be like a viking burial.


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Message 45 of 70 in Discussion

From: Psalms112 Sent: 08/07/2003 14:24

Since some people buy their homes with a pond already in place, they can't be blamed for creating a potential hazard... and a pond is good for wildlife, too. But a fence around the entire garden is a good idea anyway, pond or no pond.


Message 46 of 70 in Discussion

From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 14:28

And they certainly can't be responsible for the activities of stupid kids. It's like the 'fun toy banned because stupid kid choked on it' syndrome.


Message 47 of 70 in Discussion

From: Lugger Sent: 08/07/2003 14:33

Garden ponds - KILL children




You should be taking this seriously - only last week I was stalked by a pond, and if it hadn't been for a solar-powered fountain and a small statue of Venus rising from the waves I'd have been a goner!





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From: f¬Öral Sent: 08/07/2003 14:36

I can't take anything seriously since I was given these sunglasses


Message 50 of 70 in Discussion

From: maintsghost Sent: 08/07/2003 14:38

I know what you mean, feral. I keep typing inappropriate comments and having to delete them quickly


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From: NuclearDeathBadger Sent: 08/07/2003 14:42

Garden ponds....... kill children. Oh I see. Yes to both.


Message 55 of 70 in Discussion

From: f¬Öral Sent: 08/07/2003 14:43

Oh! I've always done that, maint


Some of them slip through


Message 56 of 70 in Discussion

From: Lugger Sent: 08/07/2003 14:45

...as the Art mistress said to the Gardener!!!


Message 57 of 70 in Discussion

From: al-leaf Sent: 08/07/2003 14:48

Joking apart..................Didn't Spinal Tap's original drummer die in a bizzare gardening accident? Be afraid....be very afraid.


Message 58 of 70 in Discussion

From: f¬Öral Sent: 08/07/2003 14:53

It serves him right .If he had a water feature in his garden he was indifferent to us anyway.


Message 59 of 70 in Discussion

From: ©¬eachcomber Sent: 08/07/2003 19:21

Well I think Eric has a valid point........
But why stop at garden ponds ? Why not fence off every pond, river & lake in Britain ?.......and what about the seaside ? We are an island nation so how about a 10ft high electric fence around the entire coastline ?

(think of the money to be made out of EEC grants)


Message 60 of 70 in Discussion

From: two_OF_seven Sent: 08/07/2003 19:26

Joking apart..................Didn't Spinal Tap's original drummer die in a bizzare gardening accident? Be afraid....be very afraid.

erm yes, all of the drummers from spinal tap 'die' in unusual ways!


Message 61 of 70 in Discussion

From: Joe King Sent: 08/07/2003 19:36

From: aleef Sent: 08/07/2003 14:48
Joking apart..................Didn't Spinal Tap's original drummer die in a bizzare gardening accident? Be afraid....be very afraid.



What you on about, this is my first post.


Message 62 of 70 in Discussion

From: Joe King Sent: 08/07/2003 19:39

We should drain the sea Beachy, then we could fill it up with all the waste that we seem to be up to our necks in.

The fly tippers could use the big hole instead of our country lanes. What a great idea.


Message 63 of 70 in Discussion

From: nexus6_____ Sent: 09/07/2003 08:39

I will just let you refelct on the type of council that can afford a "water feature" - And their probable general indifference to the rest of us.

get stuffed Eric...

Safety assurances after toddler's death


Matthew Perry went missing on Thursday afternoon
A Telford borough councillor has assured residents the pools around the town park are safe following the death of a toddler.
Matthew Perry is thought to have fallen into Withy Pool in Telford Town Park after he ran on to a line of concrete pads shaped like lilies.

Councillor Keith Austin said there was no problem as long as people were sensible.

"It's not recommended that people go paddling in these parts, they're not for that.

Discourage children

"They're there to add an aesthetic pleasance to parks and the areas are quite safe.

"But when the weather is hot we would like to discourage children from going so close to the water's edge."

The two-year-old toddler, from Bloxwich, West Midlands, died in hospital on Saturday.

Telford and Wrekin Borough Council, which owns the park, is carrying out its own investigation into the accident and has informed the Health and Safety Executive.




Borough of Telford & Wrekin has adopted arrangements, following extensive public consultation, to improve decision-making.
The system is a Cabinet of nine Councillors, including the Leader, who have responsibility for executive decisions within the authority's overall budget and policy framework. With a few exceptions, the Cabinet has replaced the previous system of committees, with each member having a portfolio of responsibilities.



The Council has a majority of Labour members; the Cabinet consists of Labour Councillors only.






......I wanted to post this yesterday, but my comouter was playing silly buggers....



Message 64 of 70 in Discussion

From: Lugger Sent: 09/07/2003 08:50

What you trying to say, Nexus? That councils shouldn't try to make the place more pleasant for everyone? That parents have no responsibility for their two year old children? Or that we should all breed like flies to make up for the ones that dont't survive accidents?


Message 65 of 70 in Discussion

From: nexus6_____ Sent: 09/07/2003 08:55

What you trying to say, Nexus? That councils shouldn't try to make the place more pleasant for everyone? That parents have no responsibility for their two year old children?

I'm not trying; I'm showing that Eric is a typical anti-middle class thingy for having a pop at "the sort of people who have water features", when the case could equally be made against his beloved labour party for endangering lives.

of course, the basic gist could well be lost if you don't appreciate heavy sarcasm...


Message 66 of 70 in Discussion

From: Lugger Sent: 09/07/2003 09:23

It's hard to tell on here sometimes - I'm not sure that Eric's first post wasn't heavy sarcasm.
In fact I've been confused by this whole thread.


Message 67 of 70 in Discussion

From: nexus6_____ Sent: 09/07/2003 09:24

I'm not sure that Eric's first post wasn't heavy sarcasm

I don't think Eric "does" sarcasm...


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Message 69 of 70 in Discussion

From: NICOLEWYLIE Sent: 09/07/2003 20:28

r u from wales

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Message 70 of 70 in Discussion

From: California-Fey Sent: 10/07/2003 03:45
Excelent Thread!!!!