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Post by flatandy on Jun 5, 2015 9:15:51 GMT
Well, you're going to have to stop eating deep fried porridge and start eating nothing but gluten-free, lactose-free kale smoothies before that happens
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Post by flatandy on Jun 24, 2015 8:58:46 GMT
A Dutch court has ordered the Dutch people to reduce CO2 emissions by 25% by 2020. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33253772How utterly bizarre. I've no idea how they would do it. Or enforce it. Very, very odd...
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Post by rick49 on Jul 14, 2015 3:52:54 GMT
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Post by flatandy on Jul 14, 2015 6:39:33 GMT
Except that
(a) it's not caused by global warming (b) the research isn't peer reviewed yet (c) solar activity doesn't appear to have actually been the driver of the Little Ice Age (otherwise it would have happened more globally and less focused just on the North Atlantic and Europe) (d) the prediction of solar activity is harder than predicting hurricanes accurately, so is hugely unreliable.
It might be interesting research, but I wouldn't get particularly excited yet.
It's notable, mostly, that the people getting most excited are organisations like the Daily Mail, who are desperate to distract from actual climate change that we know about and need to deal with
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Post by rick49 on Aug 20, 2015 0:30:26 GMT
"Leading science publisher retracts dozens of papers for fake peer reviews""Springer Publishing, one of the world’s leading publishers of Science, Technology and Medicine (STM) books and journals, issued an announcement this week that 64 different professional articles, primarily in the medical field, had been retracted. It turns out that the vaunted peer review process, designed to ensure that multiple sets of experts evaluate the quality of the work before it hits the presses, had fallen apart." tinyurl.com/p8uj2k9
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Post by rick49 on Aug 20, 2015 0:46:05 GMT
"Warmists Decide Sunspots Are Inconvenient, Change Up Data"tinyurl.com/qb37tpcData doesn't support the theory? Just alter the data! Easy peasy.
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Post by lala on Aug 20, 2015 7:39:14 GMT
You have any grounds for smearing these scientists? Anything to do with the quality of thie work, I mean, rather than your barking mad barking madness?
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Post by nobody on Aug 20, 2015 7:52:54 GMT
If sea levels are rising, why isn't the sea at Blackpool any deeper yet?
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2015 20:19:58 GMT
now for a credible news report, compare and contrast. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34009289July was the hottest month on Earth since records began, averaging 16.6 C (61.9 F), according to US scientists. That is 0.08 degrees higher than the previous record, set in July 1998 - a significant margin in weather records. Scientists at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said in a report that they expect 2015 to be the hottest year on record. Nine of the 10 hottest months since records began in 1880 have occurred since 2005, they NOAA report said. Scientists say global climate change and the impacts of the El Nino weather phenomenon are behind the record temperatures. The first seven months of 2015 have already set an all-time temperature record for the period. "The world is warming. It is continuing to warm. That is being shown time and time again in our data," said Jake Crouch, physical scientist at NOAA's National Centres for Environmental Information. "Now that we are fairly certain that 2015 will be the warmest year on record, it is time to start looking at what are the impacts of that? What does that mean for people on the ground?" Mr Crouch said. Still I'm sure some flat earthers are already constructing a denier web site and blogging about how its all part of liberal conspiracy....
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Post by flatandy on Aug 20, 2015 21:58:39 GMT
In fairness, July 2015 being hot at the beginning of a very big El Nino event, whilst being news, is not statistically meaningful on its own.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 20, 2015 22:04:40 GMT
Hopefully El Nino will be El Adulto this year.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 20, 2015 22:15:00 GMT
It's very hard to predict El Nino consequences, so even with a big one you can't be sure California's going to get more rain; and you're even less sure that California will get enough cold precipitation to build up snowpack. It's more likely with a big El Nino, but there's no certainty.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 20, 2015 22:23:37 GMT
Let's hope it does then.
They're saying the the valley is actually sinking due to the decrease in the water table.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 20, 2015 22:41:18 GMT
We drove through a few days ago on our roadtrip and the Valley was looking a total mess. Brown brown brown. And nasty cattle feedlots. And almond trees galore, some of which are now dead.
And tons of ludicrous political signs suggesting that Nancy Pelosi was the sole cause of the drought; but also that there shouldn't be restrictions on water usage, because there's an expensive train coming (or something equally bizarre and non-sequitor).
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2015 23:21:16 GMT
They are saying there will be a huge dump of water in California, but that the most likely result will be floods and little of the water will end up in reservoirs or aquifers
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Post by lala on Aug 29, 2015 7:01:23 GMT
Boffins are getting excited about 2015 already: Climate scientists are predicting that 2015 will be the hottest year on record “by a mile”, with the increase in worldwide average temperatures dramatically undermining the idea that global warming has stopped – as some climate-change sceptics claim.
Even though there are still several months left in the year to gather temperature readings from around the world, climate researchers believe nothing short of a Krakatoa-sized volcanic eruption that cuts out sunlight for months on end can now stop last year’s record being beaten.
It is rare for climate experts to make such a bold prediction so soon in the year, but they believe that a surge in ocean temperatures in particular now makes it almost inevitable that 2015 will turn out to be the hottest year globally since instruments were first used to gather readings more than 130 years ago.
link Of corse, it will be a bit embarrassing if 2015 ISN'T the hottest, or only just beats 2014. Still, one wonders what the rick49s and Delingpoles will say. Will they actully accept that the climate is changing? And that human activity is a significant contribution? And that the computer modesl aren't as wildly inaccurate and fantastical as they claimed? Or will they continue to gibber and generally make baboons of themselves?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 7:10:12 GMT
On a more parochial scale, the change in weather patterns around us here in western Europe, to which of course some of us can personally attest, is interesting as the cooling water from the northern ice-cap meets the warmer waters and airdrift from the south. The weather's generally more violent and unstable and threatens to continue in this new 'pattern'.
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Post by jimboky on Aug 29, 2015 15:36:55 GMT
here we have had a short, cool, wet summer, no global warming, just weather
I've been wearing out the old mower, I usually can get by cutting every two weeks this time of year, this year I do lucky to make it a week
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Post by Marshall on Aug 29, 2015 18:55:11 GMT
A cool summer in your area. What more proof do you need than that?
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Post by jimboky on Aug 29, 2015 19:19:51 GMT
while everyone is talking about climate I just want to talk about the weather, despicable
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