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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 4:15:11 GMT
I was hoping for a more mature response, given that Andy and I have both offered practical lists.
Scientists are aware of things like the planet wobbling. they've actually taken that into account. So whatever 'climate cycle' you mean
Who do you mean by "you?
We don't need a sea wall around the UK. No-one here has suggested that.
No grown-up suggestions or ideas. You're basically trolling, aren't you?
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 4:17:03 GMT
Ah, but you haven't offered practical lists.
and the only thing flippant was the giant showers
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 4:23:41 GMT
Our lists are practical. They do require large scale effort and significant expense. But that's what a practical solution to global warming involves. No-one is pretending this would be easy. Its taken a couple of centuries and the entire resources of Western civilisation to get us into this mess.
Demanding concrete ideas and then proclaiming them impractical was sadly predictable.
What would you unflippant list of 'practical' ideas be?
Go on, don't be shy. We played nicely.
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 4:41:25 GMT
Your idea of giant sea walls is ridiculous, for the reason I mentioned.
As for my practical ideas, well, it's a matter of nature taking its course, it's evolution, it's the way it works,
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 4:50:49 GMT
You clearly have no idea what evolution actually is.
Why is building flood defences ridiculous? Holland seems to cope, and is not renowned for being an absurdity. Plenty of perfectly sensible places have flood defences without being rendered laughable.
So you advocate Ghandian passivity in the face of global warming? Good luck persuading the population of Bangladesh just to sit there and endure.
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 5:06:55 GMT
Living in a Country below sea level is asking for trouble.
Building flood defences? Along rivers? How high? What happens when it rains and the land that you're protecting fills with water?
Evolution? Things change, those that change and adapt survive. The rest, well,,,,,,,
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 5:56:51 GMT
Flood defences in Bangladesh would have to be quite substantial, as they face inundation from the sea and flooding from rivers. I don't pretend to be an expert on Bangladeshi flood defences. But they need to be done. Or we need to be ready to accept about 50 million refugees.
What usually happens to water trapped behind levees? You pump it out, or drain it to somewhere else. Or leave it where it is and grow rice.
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 6:52:30 GMT
Awwww, Scoobs baby, it's sooooo impractical. Global investment in coal and gas-fired power generation plants fell to less than half that in renewable energy generation last year, in a record year for clean energy.
It was the first time that renewable energy made up a majority of all the new electricity generation capacity under construction around the world, and the first year in which the financial investment by developing countries in renewables outstripped that of the developed world.
Catherine Mitchell, professor of energy policy at the University of Exeter, said the developments were “extremely significant” and showed a new trend. She said: “We are looking at serious sums of money being invested in clean energy, with the dirtiest forms of fossil fuels the losers. This is the direction of travel that we need to see to have a chance of escaping the worst impacts of climate change.”
About $286bn (£200bn) was invested globally in renewable energy last year, more than the previous peak of $278bn reached in 2011, according to research published on Thursday by the UN Environment Programme (Unep). The figures exclude investment in large hydroelectric plants but include solar, onshore and offshore wind and biomass. Crazy guys. They shoulda just piled up all that money around Banglerdesh to make a levee! Wudda made moe sense!
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 6:53:06 GMT
I hope you have some good solar powered water pumps lined up.
Flooded rivers, high seas, Bangladesh is doomed, doomed I tell 'e
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 6:54:18 GMT
And I dunno, these guys, they shudda just evolved, or something. This winter’s floods caused almost £250m in damage to roads, bridges, public rights of way and drainage systems, a survey by town hall chiefs has revealed.
The snapshot analysis by the Local Government Association (LGA) warns councils have been hit with a huge bill following storms Desmond and Eva and the flooding they brought.
The final tally could be even higher, as councils are still counting the cost of the winter devastation. The total cost to households and businesses hit by the winter floods could be as much as £5bn, KPMG said in December.
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 7:03:31 GMT
Now who's being flippant?
By your logic huge walls should have been built along the side of the rivers to contain the water, when it was raining the water that fell on the land would need pumping over the wall into the river.
Not sure what would have happened when the flood water reached the sea, oh, that's right, build huge sea walls to keep it back, meanwhile, your solar pumps would be working overtime, I hope the sun shines while it's raining.
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 7:05:24 GMT
You don't really know how big the sea is, do you?
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 7:08:24 GMT
Of course I'm being flippant. I've got to fill the time waiting for your response to the question asked earlier.
Do you expect 50 million Bangladeshis just going to sit about as the sea rises above their ear-lobes? If not, what are we going to do about it?
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 7:10:45 GMT
What are we going to do about it?
Not a lot to be honest.
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 7:11:41 GMT
You don't really know how big the sea is, do you? Your point being what exactly?
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Post by lala on Mar 25, 2016 12:52:45 GMT
What are we going to do about it? Not a lot to be honest. You're okay with the prospect of 50 million Bangladeshi refugees? And people say I'm overly relaxed about Islamic immigration!
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Post by flatandy on Mar 25, 2016 14:21:02 GMT
I think you can be confident that when there are 200 million people in a very low lying country whose agricultural land gets destroyed and whose cities begin to get submerged and where there are ever increasing deaths due to flooding, none of those 200 million people will have any interest in leaving and moving somewhere else.
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2016 14:46:36 GMT
What are we going to do about it? Not a lot to be honest. You're okay with the prospect of 50 million Bangladeshi refugees? And people say I'm overly relaxed about Islamic immigration! There's not a great deal that can be done, and if there was, I doubt if it would be. As yet, you haven't come up with a viable, workable, practical solution. Given enough time, you might agree, that until the oil runs out, nothing will be done. Why you think you can beat "Mother Nature" only shows arrogance. You could try asking WKC to explain it to you.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 25, 2016 14:58:46 GMT
I beat mother nature every day. I do this by having a "house", which protects me from cold, from rain, from too much sun. I do this by eating food that was grown using "agriculture". I do this by eating food that was moved so I don't need to eat only things that grow in the wild, in season, when it's not a bad year. I do this by wearing "clothes"...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 16:15:24 GMT
Ah, so you're the cause of the problem. Concrete and plastic, synthetic poison, diesel pollution, exploitation of the masses. And I thought you were a good guy.
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