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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 5, 2018 11:38:08 GMT
Juncker's term of office ends in 2019. The candidates to stand for election as his successor will have to consider how they're going to deal with Euroscepticism.
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 5, 2018 11:46:39 GMT
The UK is in political turmoil. The government is only hanging on by paying for the support of 10 Northern Ireland MPs. The UK is threatened with break up as the Scot Nats are boosted by the strong Scottish vote for staying in the EU. The pound has plummeted. Economic growth has slowed. Tortuous Brexit negotiations are continuing with Theresa May begging for a two-year transition period after Exit because of the chaotic situation which she sees ahead.
No country would wish to bring that on itself. To add to problems that it might already have.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 5, 2018 15:03:09 GMT
Isn’t this what Junkers et al were worried about, that the UK could leave and still prosper, and others would be tempted to follow suit? How would anyone know, as Britain remains in the EU for the time being?
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Post by nobody on Mar 5, 2018 15:09:45 GMT
The thought of people leaving is enough for Junkers et al who are desperate to cling to whatever power they have.
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 5, 2018 17:36:48 GMT
Obviously, you're not well-informed about how the EU is organized. There are 28 Commissioners, one from each member state, with a staff of civil servants of 35,000. Juncker and all the other Commissioners come to the end of their period in office in 2019.
Brexit only makes a major difference for the Brits in the EU organizations. After Exit day on March 29, 2019, there won't be a British Commissioner, no more MEPs and the British PM and government ministers will lose their places in the Council.These are the people who will lose power, not the 27 remaining member states, Commissioners or members of the European Parliament.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 5, 2018 17:48:39 GMT
"Obviously, you are clueless about how the EU is organized. There are 28 Commissioners, one from each member state, with a staff of civil servants of 35,000."
Just the 35,0000, eh?
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 5, 2018 18:05:04 GMT
The UK has more than 400,000 civil servants. For the member states in total, there are millions in the national civil services. You too can work for the EU if you can pass the entrance exam. In the, possibly, unlikely event that you could meet the requirement to take the exam, you would get a job if you were right at the top of the list, since it's highly competitive and there are a limited number of vacancies. That's all in the past for Brits, as from 29 March 2019, since recruits have to be citizens of member states.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 5, 2018 18:13:52 GMT
That's still 35,000 more than we need.
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 5, 2018 18:24:57 GMT
Who's the 'we'?
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 5, 2018 18:30:01 GMT
UK. By democratic process. Although I can see you need extra help.
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 5, 2018 18:38:51 GMT
If you think the referendum result means you can sack EU civil servants, you're wrong. The people to suffer will be potential British recruits and those already at the Commission whose career prospects are going to be not so bright. The UK government, fortunately for Brits affected, has guaranteed to pay pensions and benefits indefinitely.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 5, 2018 18:40:59 GMT
No. I don't think that. But I imagine there's an EU Department of Straw Men you could refer that to.
Idiot.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 5, 2018 18:43:05 GMT
"The UK government, fortunately for Brits affected, has guaranteed to pay pensions and benefits indefinite"
Link?
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 5, 2018 18:53:53 GMT
What do you think? You said 'we' don't need the EU civil service? After 29 March 2019, it won't be working for Britain any more since Britain will be out. Instead the UK will have to recruit large numbers of state employees and buy in mountains of red tape to deal with immigration and customs between the UK and the EU.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 5, 2018 18:59:36 GMT
I guess we don't "need" civil servants. In the same way that we don't "need" doctors, or teachers, or road maintenance crews, or the police, or a military, or any kind of government at all, or builders, or farmers, or, well, anyone really.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 5, 2018 20:39:51 GMT
We don't need so many civil servants and especially not those. Doctors, they aint.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 7:49:15 GMT
Civil servants run the country. Wise up. Apart from that bit of (I'd have thought obvious) input, here's another interesting take on an ironic kick back to Treeza's Trump flirt: “You can’t just scratch out ‘EU’ and put in ‘UK’.” Does the Tory party really take US authorities for idiots? link
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 6, 2018 7:55:08 GMT
"The UK government, fortunately for Brits affected, has guaranteed to pay pensions and benefits indefinite" Link? Ahem. I do hope this isn't another Bertie "fact."
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 6, 2018 7:57:55 GMT
Other countries' civil servants don't run UK, dumbo.
Also, I don't think you'd find many people in UK who think we have too few civil servants.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 6, 2018 8:03:06 GMT
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