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Post by voice on May 16, 2017 20:44:53 GMT
true enough
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Post by flatandy on May 16, 2017 20:44:57 GMT
Tiny hands, gland hands.
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Post by Marshall on May 16, 2017 21:35:48 GMT
Though I'm looking forward to his speech on Islam he is reportedly going to be giving when he gland hands it with House Saud in his first foreign trip. "And to conclude my beautiful speech, here is a drawing I made for you of the prophet Mohammed."
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Post by voice on May 16, 2017 21:39:00 GMT
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Post by Marshall on May 16, 2017 21:45:30 GMT
He leaks classified material to Russia, then sends McMasters (being the most believable of the lot) out to deny it for him.
Then the next day tweets out, "yeah, I gave it to them."
He's destroying the credibility of his entire administration, the GOP that sit idly by and the numpties like jimbo who voted for him and still support his sorry ass.
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Post by flatandy on May 16, 2017 22:04:46 GMT
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Post by Marshall on May 16, 2017 22:09:45 GMT
Someone who's known him since '87 said "don't try to understand him. Everything he does is based on ego and impulse, there's no grand strategy here." (paraphrasing)
That pretty much nails it.
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Post by clarity on May 17, 2017 0:16:18 GMT
Wow, more drama. Comey is fighting back according to the NYT. He kept records (memos) of his conversations with Trump and showed them to 2 other people well before he was fired. I'm guessing the Israeli intelligence agents are really ticked off right about now too.
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Post by voice on May 17, 2017 0:36:51 GMT
Trump pressuring the FBI to drop it's Russia investigation is the best yet. Ffs the blokes a moron
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Post by clarity on May 17, 2017 1:11:26 GMT
Anderson Cooper is interviewing Sally Yates right now on CNN. She comes across as very credible. If you get a chance watch the interview, it's so damning of Trump and the WH.
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Post by Whiterum on May 17, 2017 13:53:40 GMT
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that U.S. President Donald Trump had not passed any secrets onto Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during a meeting in Washington last week and that he could prove it. Speaking at a news conference alongside Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni, Putin quipped that Lavrov had not passed what he said were the non-existent secrets onto him either. Putin said Russia was ready to hand a transcript of Trump's meeting with Lavrov over to U.S. lawmakers if that would help reassure them. A Kremlin aide, Yuri Ushakov, later told reporters that Moscow had in its possession a written record of the conversation, not an audio recording. Complaining about what he said were signs of 'political schizophrenia' in the United States, Putin said Trump was not being allowed to do his job properly. 'It's hard to imagine what else can these people who generate such nonsense and rubbish can dream up next,' said Putin. Putin said Moscow initially found debates about Russia's meddling in U.S. politics as 'funny' but said Moscow is now 'concerned.' Putin dismissed the U.S. politicians, whom he did not identify, as either being 'stupid' or 'dangerous and unscrupulous' who are wittingly 'causing the damage to their own country.' 'What surprises me is that they are shaking up the domestic political situation using anti-Russian slogans. Either they don't understand the damage they're doing to their own country, in which case they are simply stupid, or they understand everything, in which case they are dangerous and corrupt.' Asked what he thinks of Trump presidency, Putin said it's up to the American people to judge but his performance can only be rated 'only when he's allowed to work at full capacity,' implying that someone is hampering Trump's efforts. LINKWeird, since Trump has admitted passing on classified information to Lavrv...the plot thickens. ********************** Trump 'risked life of Israeli spy who is embedded in ISIS' by sharing classified information with Russia
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Post by voice on May 17, 2017 15:59:46 GMT
They're following the money now
A Russian state-run bank under investigation in the US "financed a deal involving Donald Trump's onetime partner in a Toronto hotel tower at a key moment for the project", The Wall Street Journal reports.
The paper says that Russian-Canadian developer Alexander Shnaider - who built the 65-storey Trump International Hotel and Tower - put money into the project after receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from a separate asset sale - relating to a Ukrainian steelmaker - that involved the Russian VEB bank.
US investigators are examining possible links between Russian financial institutions and Mr Trump, "a person familiar with the probe" is quoted as telling the newspaper.
"As part of the investigation, they're examining interactions between Mr Trump, his associates and VEB, which is now subject to US sanctions", another person "familiar with the matter" is quoted as saying.
"The Toronto deal adds a new element to the list of known connections between Mr Trump's associates and Russia," the paper says.
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Post by auldhippy on May 17, 2017 17:01:21 GMT
The Yates interview is enlightening, they cannot dismiss her warning about Flynn as "low level criticism of no urgency" since it matched the very warning Obama had expressly given Trump not to make Flynn NSA. Now there's a Comey memorandum of Trump asking for Flynn's criminality to "go away" at the same time the acting attorney general is conveniently fired for not implementing the muslim ban she had been kept in the dark about. Trump was not only shielding Flynn from his criminality but actively trying to make the investigations of it go away firing anyone who wouldn't acquiesce to his demands.
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Post by clarity on May 17, 2017 17:30:52 GMT
I thought the Trump hotel in Toronto had gone bankrupt and was up for auction to satisfy creditors?
'Because no U.S. bank will loan money to Trump or the Trump Organization in the wake of four bankruptcies, the Republican presidential candidate has turned to overseas sources for financing or partnerships..............That’s raised concerns that Trump will be beholden to foreign financiers with close ties to Putin, or at the very least faces serious conflict-of- interest questions.......Trump has also denied substantial ties to Russian businessmen. But the Toronto tower illustrates his deep involvement in a multi-million dollar deal.............The building ran into trouble almost immediately. The Trump Organization failed to sell condos as promised; nearly two-thirds still remain vacant.
Investors, many middle-class, claimed the were induced into buying time-share hotel units based on inflated projections regarding the performance of the hotel-portion of the project...........Trump promised “worst case scenario” occupancy rates of at least 55 percent, but rates never exceeded 45 percent and fell as low as 15 percent, according to court papers. Hotel rooms have been renting at $100 below market..........Small investors, who were misled by a investment prospectus and other “deceptive documents,” were granted the right to sue Trump and Talon, after a judge called the offering “a trap to these unsurprisingly unwary purchasers.”
The city of Toronto has pleaded with the hotel to change its name. Over the past year union workers, women’s groups and Muslim groups have staged protests at the property. Trump, meanwhile, is widely disliked in Canada, because of his misogyny, racism and sexism. '
I wonder if it will fall foul of the vacant property tax too.
This article is from last November by the way.
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Post by clarity on May 17, 2017 17:44:03 GMT
The Yates interview is enlightening, they cannot dismiss her warning about Flynn as "low level criticism of no urgency" since it matched the very warning Obama had expressly given Trump not to make Flynn NSA. Now there's a Comey memorandum of Trump asking for Flynn's criminality to "go away" at the same time the acting attorney general is conveniently fired for not implementing the muslim ban she had been kept in the dark about. Trump was not only shielding Flynn from his criminality but actively trying to make the investigations of it go away firing anyone who wouldn't acquiesce to his demands. The fact that it is unusual for the acting Attorney General to want an immediate face to face meeting with the POTUS and wouldn't discuss it on the phone is clear evidence that it was serious. The WH's claim that it was 'casual' is either down to them lying or covering their asses or both. Trump is good at deflecting the blame and runs the WH like his businesses, where anybody who disagrees with him is fired. He has learned nothing in his first 100 days of running a country. Follow the money, he's in deep with the Russians because no US bank would lend him money after all his bankruptcies. He is their puppet and they have a big hold on him.
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Post by voice on May 17, 2017 17:49:22 GMT
There's also question about him being involved in money laundering or accepting bail outs from Russian oligarchs through some of his real estate dealings. Last summer, the bulldozers moved in to demolish America’s most expensive private home. The Maison de l’Amitie, a gaudy 33,000 sq ft French Regency-style mansion on six prime acres with 475 ft of waterfront in Florida’s Palm Beach was subdivided and the first lot sold at a substantial loss. At first glance, the sad fate of the grandiose building – it had 18 bedrooms, 22 bathrooms, a ballroom, art gallery and 50-car garage – is an indictment of the American property bubble, whose sudden collapse in 2008 led to the worldwide financial crisis. But the story of the Maison de l’Amitie is much more than that. It is another striking example of President Donald Trump’s connections to Moscow and Russian money – and comes against a background of potentially devastating claims from elsewhere. Trumps’s election campaign was bedevilled by allegations of links with the Kremlin and financiers who owe loyalty to Vladimir Putin. Now the fledgling presidency is mired in a fast-moving scandal that revolves around allegations that the Russian Secret Services interfered to swing the election and that members of Trump’s team have had repeated contacts with Russian diplomats and middlemen. Last month, Trump appointed a new Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, a man with multiple and well-established links to Russian financiers. His National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned over his contacts with the Russians. Last week it emerged that Trump’s new Attorney General Jeff Sessions met the Russian ambassador twice in 2016, despite having denied meeting Russian officials under oath. Mr Trump has dismissed the furore over Russian links as ‘fake news’, reiterating that he has ‘no business deals in Russia’. Strictly speaking, that might be correct – if we overlook his £11 million deal to take Miss Universe to Moscow in 2013. But the real question is not about deals ‘in Russia’, but about his relationship with Russians, including oligarchs from former Soviet states. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4304946/Did-billionaire-fertiliser-baron-bail-Trump.html#ixzz4hMLlRqu6 Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Post by clarity on May 17, 2017 17:54:03 GMT
The money laundering is a very serious issue. We don't know if the Russians were bankrolling Trump on dirty money. I'd hazard a guess that it was and that he knew about it.
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Post by voice on May 17, 2017 18:05:00 GMT
The only thing stopping Pence from becoming the next president is Paul Ryan and the house GOP
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 18:16:20 GMT
When those that make the rules turn rotten, we're all screwed. Nothing anyone can do about it. We're entering into a new authoritarian era and it ain't gonna be nice. The rich'll be protected, the rest of us left to police ourselves. So best go get a gun, some nasty dogs, and as many good neighbours as you can find.
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Post by flatandy on May 18, 2017 0:19:40 GMT
Trump really is dumber than a bag of hammers.
There are so many ways to prevent almost all of this becoming news, but he's so f**k**g stupid he just doesn't know to not tweet sh*t. He doesn't know to not have a meeting with the Russians the f**k**g single f**k**g day after he sacks the guy investigating his ties with Russia. He doesn't know to not defend Michael Flynn once he's getting sacked.
We knew he was incapable of completing a coherent sentence in a speech. It turns out that this isn't a verbal tic, and it's just because he's a total and utter retard.
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