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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 19:14:01 GMT
What wrong thing? I'm focussing on a particular claim.
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Post by voice on Aug 30, 2019 19:23:17 GMT
I guess you have to ask the hospitals, doctors and advocates who are telling the world about this who are the ones making the claims. Do you think given the standards of confidentiality around medical care doctors are going to post in depth medical histories of their patients to satisfy those who like to distract with meaningless detail from the important part of this. If it makes you happy, some families have come forward, one of which has a child with CF who will die if sent home as his home country lacks the medical knowledge to keep that boy alive, others have kept their children's medical information private, though their doctors have reported patients of theirs with cancer are being deported to die.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 30, 2019 19:23:47 GMT
some are there by use of crowd funding, private sponsorship and in cases of rare diseases here on extended clinical trials, though no one is suggesting any of these kids are sponging off the state. The rare diseases cases I've heard of. We should have the other types of funding for people here instead of letting them go bankrupt, but maybe that would smack of universal health care too much.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 19:56:30 GMT
I guess you have to ask the hospitals, doctors and advocates who are telling the world about this who are the ones making the claims. Do you think given the standards of confidentiality around medical care doctors are going to post in depth medical histories of their patients to satisfy those who like to distract with meaningless detail from the important part of this. If it makes you happy, some families have come forward, one of which has a child with CF who will die if sent home as his home country lacks the medical knowledge to keep that boy alive, others have kept their children's medical information private, though their doctors have reported patients of theirs with cancer are being deported to die. And yet you can't support your claim.
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Post by voice on Aug 30, 2019 20:47:12 GMT
Bollox, read the links, have a look round. Though I get it, you'd rather this was all fabricated, sadly for these kids being given 33 days to get out, it's not.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 20:55:29 GMT
So, any links, for the fourth time of asking?
See, this is your massive weakness: I'm not antagonistic to your position, it's just that you can't stand it up. Even on your own territory.
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Post by voice on Aug 30, 2019 22:13:52 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 31, 2019 6:47:29 GMT
Nope. Still no specific examples of children with cancer. Some sad stuff and lots of generic pictures of sick kids, but I'm not convinced.
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Post by whitewine on Aug 31, 2019 8:59:15 GMT
Just another Obama policy being debunked by Trump, what a horrible man.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 31, 2019 13:01:04 GMT
Which Obama policy?
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Post by whitewine on Aug 31, 2019 15:32:40 GMT
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 31, 2019 22:17:33 GMT
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010. That can't be right, can it? That act only applies to US citizens.
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Post by voice on Sept 1, 2019 5:53:57 GMT
The plan protecting these kids is the medical deferment program, though an Obama era thing, not the same as the ACA
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 1, 2019 6:21:15 GMT
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Post by Marshall on Sept 3, 2019 17:30:00 GMT
Trump asked by a reporter on Sunday (Sept 1) "Do you have a message for Poland on the 80th anniversary of World War II?"
Being the total ignoramus that he is, he congratulated them. Maybe this is why so many of his supporters hate higher education (although you should learn this stuff around age 13-14).
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Post by voice on Sept 3, 2019 17:37:34 GMT
What a simpleton
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Post by voice on Sept 3, 2019 17:41:59 GMT
Though thinking about it, he well have genuinely thought Poland being taken over by the Nazis would be something they remember fondly, though who support him lean much more to that view of history.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 17:49:40 GMT
Of course, he could be congratulating the Poles for their valiant resistance, instead of patronising them.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 3, 2019 17:58:27 GMT
Oh yeah, that must be it.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 3, 2019 20:05:25 GMT
"Your 17 horses did really courageously against the Blitzkrieg," said Trump. "I always love losers, particularly plucky but poor and underequipped ones. It's what I'm famous for."
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