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Post by jimboky on Sept 13, 2019 18:18:05 GMT
or the Trump Tariffs are retaliatory for China's unfair practices, China has been stealing from the USA and the world for years, only Trump seems to have the stones stop them,
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Post by flatandy on Sept 13, 2019 18:24:33 GMT
"Stealing"?
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Post by Marshall on Sept 13, 2019 18:25:00 GMT
I think it's good Trump is going after China, the problem is his execution of it is incompetent and scatter-brained.
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Post by voice on Sept 13, 2019 18:30:06 GMT
Trumps tariffs amount to the single biggest tax hike in a generation, they are hitting the farmers and manufactures in Trumplandia particularly hard. Not sure how many are still buying the lie that its China who pays for this.
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Post by jimboky on Sept 13, 2019 18:31:35 GMT
may be, but seems to be working, China Blinked, not a big win but a good start,,, long over due, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Papa Bush, even Regan allowed China to go unchecked
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Post by Marshall on Sept 13, 2019 18:31:50 GMT
His cult must be, Trump keeps saying the tariffs are resulting in China paying billions to the US.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 13, 2019 18:38:53 GMT
How to really stick it to China: the SEC doesn't have the ability to audit Chinese companies that are traded on the NYSE, so since the SEC can't protect US investors from these companies cooking their books (which is not uncommon) they will be delisted from the stock exchange. That would turn the screws.
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Post by voice on Sept 13, 2019 18:43:20 GMT
its funny, when Trump blinked first a few weeks back and cancelled or delayed the latest round of US tariffs, not a blip from the cult, now China reciprocates to Trump bottling it a few weeks ago, this is spun as evidence tariffs work
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Post by voice on Sept 13, 2019 18:48:51 GMT
And really the best way to stick it China was to have signed the pacific trade deal, a deal that was specifically designed to hem them in, only cos Trumps a total idiot and obsessed only with cancelling as much of what Obama did as possible given Obama was so much better a man and president than Trump could ever be, even the stuff that was very good for the country, he nixed the deal.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 13, 2019 18:56:03 GMT
You mean the TTP?
Hillary wouldn't have signed it either as president (she said so, despite having called it the Gold Standard of all trade deals to begin with).
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Post by voice on Sept 13, 2019 19:02:12 GMT
Well she wasn't really that good a candidate, and I wonder if push came to shove she'd have that stupid in office. The TTP was designed specifically to hem in China, and while it wasn't perfect, it would have been far less damaging to the US than the Trump tariffs.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 13, 2019 19:04:58 GMT
Yeah, it got a lot of negative press when it came out but it would have helped with the China situation.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 20, 2019 4:34:03 GMT
It appears that Donald may have been a very naughty boy. He and his friend Rudy seem to have been using the threat of US sanctions to get dirty info on Biden's son from a foreign government. Even by the standards of Donald's period in office, this seems pretty naughty if it is in fact what happened.
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Post by voice on Sept 20, 2019 4:41:24 GMT
Thought we did this a while back, he was threatening to hold up military aid to Ukrain unless the opened an investigation of some kind into Biden or his family.
You know nothing's gonna be done about it, his cult members in the Senate will make sure of that.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 20, 2019 13:29:52 GMT
That was just rumours. This appears to be overheard by the whistleblower in national intelligence.
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Post by jimboky on Sept 20, 2019 13:53:44 GMT
the dems have found another rabbit hole
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Sept 20, 2019 13:55:58 GMT
may be, but seems to be working, China Blinked, not a big win but a good start,,, long over due, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Papa Bush, even Regan allowed China to go unchecked He's in a bit of trouble on this now the fed only cut the interest rates by 25 bips not 50.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 20, 2019 13:57:32 GMT
the dems have found another rabbit hole Well, the President has done another outrageous and utterly illegal thing that compromises national security and the US democratic system. Tomato, tomaaahto.
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Post by jimboky on Sept 20, 2019 14:03:22 GMT
It looks like Biden is the one in trouble, using his office to shield his son from wrong doing,
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Post by flatandy on Sept 21, 2019 0:25:47 GMT
Do we think it's fine for the President to use the US government to bribe or blackmail foreign governments for his own personal gain?
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