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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 21, 2019 14:01:56 GMT
Mrs. Baloo and I have just come back from a long walk in the hills. Just before we started downhill, we stopped to speak to an elderly American couple who were admiring our dogs. We started chatting and, as they had a poor map we offered to show them the best way back down and to the high street. I walked down chatting to the bloke and he was very pleasant, intelligent and engaging.
Something about what he said made me think to look him up.
Alan Schwartz and Nancy Seaman. In the top 25 wealthiest people in the States, apparently. Nice people.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 16:45:41 GMT
Sub-prime 'victim'.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 21, 2019 17:01:45 GMT
Funnily enough, it something along those lines that made me wonder who he might be.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 21, 2019 19:29:27 GMT
You'd think someone that rich could afford a smart phone with decent mapping.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 21, 2019 19:36:24 GMT
You'd think they might be able to read a map.
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Post by voice on Sept 21, 2019 19:36:32 GMT
might just be used to having minions do all the trivial stuff like that
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 21, 2019 19:39:55 GMT
They didn't come across like that.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 21, 2019 21:58:17 GMT
So, if Trump refused aid to the Ukraine until they helped his political campaign, you have to wonder what Saudi Arabia shoveled his way to get a whole bunch of US troops and military hardware to show up...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 7:50:40 GMT
Support for a struggling Netanyahu?
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 22, 2019 8:41:25 GMT
So, if Trump refused aid to the Ukraine until they helped his political campaign, you have to wonder what Saudi Arabia shoveled his way to get a whole bunch of US troops and military hardware to show up... They may have threatened to go it on their own, to which the US has said "FFS don't do that, have some aid to stop it happening again."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 12:31:32 GMT
Nonsense.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 22, 2019 12:41:27 GMT
Why is it nonsense? What's your counterpoint?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 13:06:24 GMT
How would Saudi go it on their own?
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 22, 2019 13:15:15 GMT
You think Saudi lack the kit?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 13:25:30 GMT
Do they?
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Post by whitewine on Sept 22, 2019 13:30:04 GMT
The Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict, sometimes also referred to as the Iran–Saudi Arabia Cold War, Middle East Cold War or Middle East Conflict,is the ongoing struggle for influence in the Middle East and surrounding regions between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The two countries have provided varying degrees of support to opposing sides in nearby conflicts, including the civil wars in Syria, Yemen, and Iraq. The rivalry also extends to disputes in Bahrain, Lebanon, Qatar Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and Morocco, as well as broader competition in North and East Africa, parts of South Asia, Central Asia, and the Caucasus. In what has been described as a cold war, the conflict is waged on multiple levels over geopolitical, economic, and sectarian influence in pursuit of regional hegemony. American support for Saudi Arabia and its allies as well as Russian and Chinese support for Iran and its allies have drawn comparisons to the dynamics of the Cold War era, and the proxy conflict has been characterized as a front in what Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has referred to as the "New Cold War". The rivalry today is primarily a political and economic struggle exacerbated by religious differences, and sectarianism in the region is exploited by both countries for geopolitical purposes as part of a larger conflict. Iran is largely Shia Muslim, while Saudi Arabia sees itself as the leading Sunni Muslim power. Yemeni Civil War The United States provided intelligence and logistical support for the campaign. The conflict has been widely seen as an extension of the Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict and as a means to combat Iranian influence in the region. In 2018, the United Nations warned that 13 million Yemeni civilians face starvation in what it says could become "the worst famine in the world in 100 years."
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Post by jimboky on Sept 22, 2019 13:55:02 GMT
don't the UN have the resources to stop the worst famine in the world in 100 years? what do they do with all the money they receive? Isn't this kinda the mission of the UN?
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Post by flatandy on Sept 22, 2019 14:10:06 GMT
So, if Trump refused aid to the Ukraine until they helped his political campaign, you have to wonder what Saudi Arabia shoveled his way to get a whole bunch of US troops and military hardware to show up... They may have threatened to go it on their own, to which the US has said "FFS don't do that, have some aid to stop it happening again." Ah. You're living in the old paradigm where we could trust that US foreign policy was based on fighty US Presidents trying to impose US doctrine across the world. If the reports about Trump's threats to the Ukraine are right, now US aid, foreign and military policy is no purely longer based around even America's deranged ideas of self-defence and power projection. Now it's all contingent on what foreign powers offer to Trump personally.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 22, 2019 14:11:56 GMT
I'm making this point to show how spectacularly outrageous Trump's actions were and how dangerous and ridiculous his claims that "it's normal" are.
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Post by whitewine on Sept 22, 2019 14:12:15 GMT
don't the UN have the resources to stop the worst famine in the world in 100 years? what do they do with all the money they receive? Isn't this kinda the mission of the UN? The UN are always there, delivering humanitarian aid in every conflict around the world. Would be better to not have these proxy wars, wars I general. This is why, I cant wait for all these fossil fuels, coal, oil etc.. to run out( not in my life time) so these countries will have eff all to fight over.
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