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Post by voice on Dec 5, 2019 21:32:08 GMT
so, are you ready yet to address his corrupt criminal behavior of asking a foreign power to interfere in the 2020 election, something that is specifically outlawed in your constitution?
I mean if you're good with that, just say so and we can end the farcical illusion the right care about democracy, cos if you are ready to stand with Putin against your own country if it gets you a nominally republican president, well its pretty much over isn't it?
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Post by flatandy on Dec 5, 2019 21:33:25 GMT
I think the key isn't that it's a "political" process (although by definition it is, when the House makes the articles and the Senate is the jury).
The point is that the definition of "High crimes and misdemeanors" is not a question of committing something that is forbidden by statute. If President Carter stole a pack of cigarettes from the local CVS, that would be a crime but almost certainly wouldn't fit into the "High crimes and misdemeanors" definition. But Trump holding back US defense funds in order to sabotage an election might be a stretch to convict as a criminal act, but it's clearly impeachable.
(Although, as Voice notes, bribery is explicitly named in the impeachment part of the constitution, and it is illegal to encourage foreigners to interfere in US elections, so perhaps in Trump's case it is actually criminal, too).
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Post by jimboky on Dec 6, 2019 15:42:12 GMT
Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000 Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969. The end of the GM strike had a big effect, boosting employment in motor vehicles and parts by 41,300, part of an overall 54,000 gain in manufacturing. Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html
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Post by voice on Dec 6, 2019 15:58:18 GMT
Yeah good, but what about answering my question Jim?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 17:23:34 GMT
Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000 Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969. The end of the GM strike had a big effect, boosting employment in motor vehicles and parts by 41,300, part of an overall 54,000 gain in manufacturing. Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html What's Trump doing to cause this?
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Post by voice on Dec 9, 2019 22:22:09 GMT
A US watchdog has found no evidence of political bias when the FBI launched an inquiry into the 2016 Trump campaign. The US Department of Justice inspector general's report concluded the law enforcement bureau had "authorised purpose" to initiate the investigation www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50720345Another bigly win.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 7:55:39 GMT
Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000 Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969. The end of the GM strike had a big effect, boosting employment in motor vehicles and parts by 41,300, part of an overall 54,000 gain in manufacturing. Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html What's Trump doing to cause this? As expected - no response from the Trumpites.
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Post by jimboky on Dec 14, 2019 16:20:03 GMT
been a great week for Trump,, USMCA dems still shooting themselves in foot China BoJo Markets
all this after jobs soars in Nov
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Post by voice on Dec 17, 2019 17:31:13 GMT
Nice to see Trump continue to felate despots and dictators. President Trump has said he does not consider the mass killings of Armenians in 1915 to be a genocide, contradicting a unanimous vote by the US Senate. The historic vote last week incensed Turkey, which has always denied that the killings amounted to a genocide. Turkey's foreign ministry on Friday summoned the US ambassador to express its anger over the vote, accusing the US of "politicising history". www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50828179As I remember wasn't it Doc Cruel who's people where from Armenia back in the day, I'm sure it was him who never missed a chance to highlight the Armenian genocide and was pushing for the US to grow a pair and recognize it was such. Wonder what such a full on hard right republican as he was feels about this?
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Post by Psalms on Dec 18, 2019 13:16:31 GMT
President Trump was safeguarding america by wanting the Biden investigation. If Democrat Biden and his offspring are innocent, they should welcome the inquiry. Score : Trump 1 .. Biden 0
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Post by Marshall on Dec 18, 2019 17:41:22 GMT
President Trump was safeguarding america by wanting the Biden investigation. If Democrat Biden and his offspring are innocent, they should welcome the inquiry. Score : Trump 1 .. Biden 0 Hilarious. Ukraine is so corrupt that we should ask them to investigate Joe Biden for us.
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Post by flatandy on Dec 18, 2019 18:47:40 GMT
Also it is worth noting that Trump never really asked for an investigation. He just asked for an investigation to be announced. He had no interest in any actual corruption, he just wanted some mud to sling.
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Post by Marshall on Dec 18, 2019 18:53:09 GMT
Well yeah, out of all the corruption in the US and the world, he decides it's Biden who needs investigated (by the Ukraine). Nothing fishy about that.
Another part of the "I'm innocent and everything was perfect" narrative I don't get - they claim the president of Ukraine never even knew the aid was being withheld (which has been shown to be untrue). Then what's the point of withholding aid as leverage, did they want to keep it a secret from them?
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Post by flatandy on Dec 18, 2019 19:06:48 GMT
Hahaha! I hadn't spotted that before:
"We're withholding aid until you fix your corruption problem, but you're not going to know that's why we were doing it or in fact that we're doing it at all."
I love the "It would only be a shakedown if we actually got what we wanted" line of argument, too.
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Post by voice on Dec 18, 2019 19:50:19 GMT
Yeah "we were too inept to make the scheme work so no harm no foul" is equally hilarious.
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Post by voice on Dec 25, 2019 14:18:19 GMT
Swift retribution from the cult for daring to tell the truth. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50906346Christian magazine editor quits in row over Trump's evangelical support Journalist Napp Nazworth's departure follows an op-ed from another Christian outlet calling for Mr Trump's removal. Last week, after the US House of Representatives voted to impeach Mr Trump, Christianity Today published an editorial by editor-in-chief Mark Galli urging the president's removal. Deriding Mr Trump's "grossly immoral character", Mr Galli described the president's expulsion from office as a Christian imperative: "Not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments". Mr Trump "attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president's political opponents," Mr Galli wrote. "That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral." And the magazine - founded by one of the most influential preachers of the 20th Century, Billy Graham - went even further, pointing the finger at evangelicals who have remained devoted to the president "in spite of his blackened moral record". "Remember who you are and whom you serve," Mr Galli wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 8:34:38 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Jan 5, 2020 9:41:09 GMT
Carole Cadwaladr.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 10:56:39 GMT
Dead messengers everywhere.
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Post by voice on Jan 9, 2020 21:54:32 GMT
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