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Post by flatandy on Jul 1, 2020 14:58:07 GMT
The markets are comically decoupled from the actual economy. But even if they are your metric, they're about the same as where they were a month ago, up from where they were 3 months ago, down from where they were 6 months ago, down from where they were a year ago, about the same as where they were 2 years ago.
It's a stretch to say that they're "pushing higher".
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Post by unclejunior on Jul 1, 2020 15:08:21 GMT
The markets are comically decoupled from the actual economy. But even if they are your metric, they're about the same as where they were a month ago, up from where they were 3 months ago, down from where they were 6 months ago, down from where they were a year ago, about the same as where they were 2 years ago. It's a stretch to say that they're "pushing higher". Well obviously they are considerably higher than when Barry left the White House with the markets in disarray....,
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Post by flatandy on Jul 1, 2020 15:18:41 GMT
Well, if we're playing that game, the Dow Jones increased 149% from Jan 20 2009 to Jan 19 2017 - 18.65% per year. It has increased a mere 30.4% over Trump's term so far, about 8.6% per year.
Basically, Barry's stock market performed more than twice as well as Donny's. And it's Donny who likes to define himself by the stock market.
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Post by unclejunior on Jul 1, 2020 15:55:05 GMT
Well, if we're playing that game, the Dow Jones increased 149% from Jan 20 2009 to Jan 19 2017 - 18.65% per year. It has increased a mere 30.4% over Trump's term so far, about 8.6% per year. Basically, Barry's stock market performed more than twice as well as Donny's. And it's Donny who likes to define himself by the stock market. How did Barry fare during his China pandemic ??
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Post by voice on Jul 1, 2020 23:53:04 GMT
Well his H1N1 and Ebola responces were science based and well carried out leading him to establish teams to get a faster responce for future pandemics, sadly Trump disbanded it, cos hes always been more concerned about undoing anything Obama did than ever thinking the country might need a well resourced and competent pandemic responce team to face something, for instance Covid. Short sighted and stupid, not a great combination as 130,000 dead Ameticans can attest to.
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Post by jimboky on Jul 2, 2020 14:19:53 GMT
Well, if we're playing that game, the Dow Jones increased 149% from Jan 20 2009 to Jan 19 2017 - 18.65% per year. It has increased a mere 30.4% over Trump's term so far, about 8.6% per year. Basically, Barry's stock market performed more than twice as well as Donny's. And it's Donny who likes to define himself by the stock market. most of the Obama recovery was due to the fracking which Obama opposed but was unable to stop, then he took credit for the great economy that resulted like it was something he caused, Unemployment rate drops to 11.1% in June as job growth blows past expectations with 4.8M added Economists expected the unemployment rate to edge down to 12.3% in June www.foxbusiness.com/economy/june-jobs-report-2020-coronavirus
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Post by flatandy on Jul 2, 2020 14:34:40 GMT
Oh! Obama's stock market growth is due to externalities; Trump's is due to his innate gloriousness?
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Post by jimboky on Jul 2, 2020 14:39:32 GMT
Obama's Market only started growing when the Fracking started, He, like all democrats opposed any drilling, any oil, wanted gas prices to be north of $4/gal, his market was saved by the oil industry he tried to destroy, his incompetence is what saved him
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Post by voice on Jul 2, 2020 15:31:28 GMT
Today's unemployment figures while a bit of a relief, are from the beginning of june when many places eased or simply ended the lockdown, so will most likely be a small blip as the lockdown is now being slammed back in place as the pandemic sweeps through the us unabated now.
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Post by voice on Jul 8, 2020 16:23:24 GMT
Oh dear, another big win for the embattled and failing Trump. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53328654A tell-all memoir written by President Donald Trump's niece claims that he is a "narcissist" who now threatens the life of every American. Mary Trump's book, Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man, describes her uncle as a fraud and a bully. Though really, apart from further details, whats in this book we didn't already know? Also we already know the cult won't break with him what ever he does, they are good with his criminality, asking foreign governments to subvert US democracy, his grift and corruption, his misogyny and racism and now him turning a blind eye to Putin paying terrorist to kill US soldiers, so I doubt this will make much difference to them.
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Post by Marshall on Jul 8, 2020 23:05:58 GMT
The childish pettiness of the orange stain has no limit. Former White House aide Alexander Vindman, a key figure in the impeachment of President Donald Trump, said on Wednesday he was retiring from the Army after what his attorney described as a “campaign of bullying, intimidation and retaliation” by the president.
Vindman, an Army lieutenant colonel who had been due for a promotion to colonel, provided some of the most damaging testimony during an investigation by the U.S. House of Representatives into Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.
Vindman, then the White House National Security Council’s top Ukraine expert, testified in November that Trump’s request for an investigation into Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter during a July 2019 phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was improper.
By retiring, Vindman, 45, defuses what could have become a contentious political battle between Senate Democrats — who were eager to shield his promotion from political interference — and Trump’s Republicans that could have dragged the military into a battle with the White House.
Last week, Democratic U.S. Senator Tammy Duckworth, herself a veteran, said she would put a hold on the confirmation of over 1,000 military promotions until Defense Secretary Mark Esper provided assurances that Vindman’s promotion would not be blocked.
“Secretary Esper’s failure to protect his troops sets a new, dark precedent that any Commander in Chief can interfere with routine merit-based military promotions to carry out personal vendettas and retaliation,” Duckworth, a former Army National Guard helicopter pilot who lost both legs when she was shot down in Iraq in 2004, said in a statement.
In the letter, Vindman’s attorney also alleged that Trump was forcing him to choose between “protecting his promotion or the promotion of his fellow soldiers.”www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-vindman/vindman-key-impeachment-witness-retires-from-army-alleges-bullying-by-trump-idUSKBN2492J1
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Post by voice on Jul 8, 2020 23:50:16 GMT
I saw they had been trying to stop Vidman getting his rightfully earned promotion, Trumps just a petty vindictive little bully when all said and done. Still the cult will not break from him, so he's still in with a chance cone November.
One things for sure the cult can no longer claim to be Patriots anymore can they?
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Post by voice on Jul 9, 2020 2:29:45 GMT
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Post by voice on Jul 9, 2020 15:08:24 GMT
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Post by flatandy on Jul 9, 2020 15:12:38 GMT
I keep wondering if that theTrump tax returns aren’t a wild goose chase. There might be just nothing particularly remarkable in them (apart from a few payments to Jeffrey Epstein).
The lack of anything might be a reverse bombshell in favour of Trump: “Look at all these squealing libtards who squealed for four years; and now there’s nothing to see”.
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Post by voice on Jul 9, 2020 15:21:01 GMT
I'm not sure, but he's battled tooth and nail to keep his financials secret and coming on the back of his nieces book, that he also tried to silence, detailing massive tax fraud I suspect he's a bit worried. And we know he's corrupt as fcuk just as a general principle.
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Post by Marshall on Jul 9, 2020 22:43:38 GMT
He's having a real meltdown over that. Would be very interesting to know about his Deutsche Bank dealings, something smells fishy there.
Also today Geoff Berman testified before congress and said that Barr repeatedly pressured him to resign before giving up and just telling the press that he did step down (which he'd refused to do). Barr is a real disgrace, he should be jailed.
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Post by voice on Jul 11, 2020 1:04:48 GMT
More corruption of the rule of law from Trump, though really who is the least bit surprised given the level of corruption the Trmp regime carries out with impunity. On Friday night—as Americans across the country continued protesting dangerous and divisive disparities in the criminal justice system—Donald Trump commuted the prison sentence of his longtime adviser Roger Stone, who was convicted of lying to Congress and witness tampering during the Trump-Russia investigation. “Roger Stone is now a free man,” the Trump White House declared. It’s easy—and appropriate—to see this as brazen cronyism. Stone, the veteran dirty trickster, has been a Trump intimate for decades. He served him as a lobbyist and political adviser, and for years he encouraged him to run for president—until Trump said yes. Then Stone helped birth Trump’s White House bid in 2015. Though he has Richard Nixon’s visage tattooed on his back, Stone, a veteran conspiracy theorist and purveyor of the politics of paranoia, has had Trump in his heart. Yet Trump’s grant of clemency—as it’s officially called—was not merely an act of friendship or a reward for Stone’s devotion. It was part of a coverup of Trump’s own wrongdoing, which included an action that might have been a crime. Recall what Stone lied to Congress about. While being grilled by the Democrats of the House Intelligence Committee in 2017, he prevaricated about his efforts to make contact with WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign, when Russian intelligence was using Julian Assange’s website to disseminate material its hackers had stolen from Democrats. The Russian-WikiLeaks operation was mounted to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump, and Trump and his campaign were delighted by the Kremlin’s intervention. www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/donald-trump-commutation-pardon-roger-stone/The swamp is bursting its banks these days.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 11, 2020 1:09:51 GMT
Apparently perjury’s not really a crime these days and we should stop making such a fuss about it
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Post by Marshall on Jul 11, 2020 2:30:43 GMT
Roger Stone is rewarded for lying and Lt. Col. Vindman is punished for telling the truth. That’s your law and order president.
Trump in Florida today: “People don’t remember - nobody ever heard of it until I came along, nobody remembered it for a long time or they didn’t use it at least, I use it all the time: Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. You know you say that and people say, ‘I didn’t know that.’”
When you just learned something and want to show off your deep insight but literally everyone else already knows. What a f**k**g retard.
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