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Post by Repat Van on Aug 19, 2019 22:07:23 GMT
most conservatives I know have nothing to do with the "far right", including Trump, yet you can't find one dem who will critise Antifa's violence This is funny. |
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Post by rick49 on Aug 20, 2019 0:21:50 GMT
To be fair, you'd have probably not considered Oswald and the Brownshirts to be "far right", either. You'd have probably considered them reasonable centrists exercising their rights to free speech and doing the reasonable thing by standing up to communist agitators. Wow. You have become so brainwashed it's incredible. Oswald was a communist who killed JFK because of JFK's anti-communism stance. |
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2019 0:26:27 GMT
Oswald Mosley you dumb fcuk (look him up, you'd have liked him for sure), I suppose if you actually knew what was going on and what others were actually saying you'd embarrass yourself much less.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 20, 2019 0:35:39 GMT
Oswald Mosley you dumb fcuk (look him up, you'd have liked him for sure), I suppose if you actually knew what was going on and what others were actually saying you'd embarrass yourself much less. Grow up you stupid cow. |
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Post by flatandy on Aug 20, 2019 0:43:16 GMT
Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't known for his association with Brownshirts.
If I was being fair to Rick, I'd admit that there's no reason for him to know about Britain's failed fascists of the mid-30s.
But given that he was an arsehole who assumed I was an idiot, and was somehow referring to Kennedy's assassin, I'm not sure I should be fair.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 20, 2019 2:44:38 GMT
Just learned that four hours after the Proud Boys left, Antifa was still on the rampage, destroying property and attacking and beating bystanders for being "Nazis." Andy's, justvan's, and voice's masked heroes.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 20, 2019 2:59:32 GMT
Your heroes, the Proud Boys, who started this? Who deliberately went into Portland to try and incite violence?
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2019 4:36:01 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 20, 2019 4:52:35 GMT
It's interesting that in the first photo are a couple of young scamps who don't appear to fit with the accepted neo-Nazi entry requirements. They don't look very blond-haired or blue-eyed and, if I was to hazard a guess, I would suggest it was likely that they were RC rather than members of any protestant church.
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2019 5:03:56 GMT
No one ever accused that lot of being all that smart
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Post by mids on Aug 20, 2019 5:14:50 GMT
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Post by mids on Aug 20, 2019 5:19:04 GMT
Yup. The rest are at least two years old and the back of the blokes head is from Germany. You know you just need to right click and search for photos, right?
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 20, 2019 5:40:54 GMT
Just so we're clear who these people are who Rick, Rev and mids are defending and who who according them are not far right fascists or neo Nazis, but peace loving flower children just going about their day minding their own business and just happen to end up blameless victims.     Nice boys, probably could get the trains to run on time or something. How embarrassing to have a black child who is down with the Nazis. Their family must be dying of shame. |
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2019 15:36:06 GMT
Yup. The rest are at least two years old and the back of the blokes head is from Germany. You know you just need to right click and search for photos, right? pictures of the same people who marched in portland but taken elsewhere means groups like the Proud Boys, Sons of the South, the White Patriots and so on are still the same people, but I get it, you have no problem with these hate groups, you'd rather them than risk your fate to democracy. |
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Post by mids on Aug 20, 2019 15:39:11 GMT
They're the same people then and now? You may be right- all 25 or so of them.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 20, 2019 16:24:43 GMT
Why does it bother you when people point out that they are fascists?
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Post by mids on Aug 20, 2019 16:36:12 GMT
It bothers me when the word is tossed around like a dead baby at an abortion clinic. Call actual fascists fascists all you want but it doesn't really help anyone when you call Priti Patel a fascist, for example. The ones in voice's pics from years ago probably are fascists but the fact that there are almost none of them shows there's no need for drenched left-wing nappies.
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2019 16:42:27 GMT
So groups who self identify as neo-Nazi, are proud of their white supremacist ultra national fascistic views and unapologetic racists, the same groups who marched on Portland, these are the groups it bothers you when its pointed out they are fascist/Nazis.
And again we get it, appeasement is your natural response to the rise of these far right hate groups, though they are not as small as you try and say, but you know that.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 20, 2019 22:41:50 GMT
I’m not sure it’s appeasement.
People just balk at criticising those whose views they agree with / sympathise with.
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Post by voice on Aug 20, 2019 22:57:29 GMT
true, mids Rick and Rev don't like us being nasty to the Nazis for those reasons as well.
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