What The Hell?

[rick49]

yikes,

Riders stuck upside down for three hours on roller coaster at Wisconsin fair
www.sfgate.com/news/article/riders-stuck-upside-down-for-three-hours-on-18183561.php

[mids]

A pupil has stabbed a teacher at a school in Tewksbury.


www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66151983

[voice]

The GOP are now trying to decapitate the US military, weaken its leadership and make the US less secure and less able to respond to threats. All because the military refused to suppress women, preferring instead to trust woman to know what's best for themselves and to refuse to take away their bodily autonomy and the right to free movement.

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/single-senator-blocking-us-military-promotions-means-pentagon-101304441

And they wonder why they've lost the last 3 elections.

[rick49]

crime pays.

Prisoners now eligible for free college paid for by the U.S. government
www.thecollegefix.com/prisoners-now-eligible-for-free-college-paid-for-by-the-government/

[voice]

Good, rehabilitation is what the emphasis should be, make sure prisoners are better equipped to be productive members of society when they get out and stop prison being a revolving door. It's far far cheaper to educate them, give them a trade, than keep locked up at the taxpayers expense.

Only an idiot would see this as bad thing.

[happyhammerhead]

Clearly some would see it as deeply unfair that criminals go to college at the taxpayers expense, while law-abiding folk have to pay.

But, if it reduces recidivism (love that word) and so is less expensive than having ex-convicts incarcerated again, it makes sense.

Dunno what the cost per-prisoner in the USA is, but here it's over £40k a year!

[voice]

Yes, less crime, less victims, and hopefully, more tax and people contributing in other ways.

Though obviously team idiot is gonna hate it, won't be long before there are "stories" (in the true meaning of the word) circulating on far right websites claiming people are becoming criminals simply to get free collage. And cos they thick as a bag of rocks, the idiot squad will believe it.

[ootlg]

People appear to forget that felons are part of, and a result of, our society. We made them.

[mids]

I didn't.

[ootlg]

We all know you're not part of society.

[happyhammerhead]

Jul 18, 2023 10:53:59 GMT mids said:

I didn't.

Yeah you did. Some poor kid who you called a fatty and he went on to self-harm and turned to crime to support his drugs habit*


*I might have made all of that up.

[mids]

His KFC habit.

[mids]

Kinnell. He must be a lefty to be able to do that much sobbing.

"A man who forced himself to cry for seven days says he went temporarily blind as a craze for eccentric feats of endurance sweeps Nigeria.

Guinness World Records has seen a surge in record-breaking attempts from Africa’s most populous nation in recent months, sparked by a chef’s four-day cooking marathon that caught the public imagination.

Tembu Ebere, who has been attempting to weep non-stop for a week, said he had experienced headaches, puffy eyes and a swollen face, and went partially blind for 45 minutes amid his own efforts.

“I had to re-strategise and reduce my wailing,” he told the BBC, adding he was determined to sob towards his target despite the difficulties encountered."

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/17/nigeria-guinness-world-records-blind-cring-record-attempt/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

[Repat Van]

Jul 18, 2023 3:59:23 GMT rick49 said:

crime pays.

Prisoners now eligible for free college paid for by the U.S. government
www.thecollegefix.com/prisoners-now-eligible-for-free-college-paid-for-by-the-government/

What do you prefer? They are left completely at a disadvantage for reentry into society.

[mids]

I'm in favour of prisoners being educated although most are barely at secondary school level so let's start with that. In fact they should be forced to learn to read, write and do sums better by using a reward system that starts from an extremely austere level and, with evidence of reaching good levels of basic education, rises to just austere.

[Repat Van]

This very random link shows the USA does not do that badly actually compared to developed countries.

Norway however, is a standout at how to do it.

(I have not interrogated the data but it seems to be in line with some other sources.)

worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/recidivism-rates-by-country

The UK is really bad however….

[Repat Van]

This however puts the USA much higher - 75% is what I usually see about the USA.

[Repat Van]

Jul 18, 2023 15:08:56 GMT mids said:

I'm in favour of prisoners being educated although most are barely at secondary school level so let's start with that. In fact they should be forced to learn to read, write and do sums better by using a reward system that starts from an extremely austere level and, with evidence of reaching good levels of basic education, rises to just austere.

Citation?

[mids]

newsgeneral.proboards.com/

[ootlg]

Jul 18, 2023 15:08:56 GMT mids said:

I'm in favour of prisoners being educated although most are barely at secondary school level so let's start with that. In fact they should be forced to learn to read, write and do sums better by using a reward system that starts from an extremely austere level and, with evidence of reaching good levels of basic education, rises to just austere.

If the law was less weighted in favour of the rich you'd probably find the education levels of prisoners more even.