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Post by mids on Jul 18, 2023 16:30:25 GMT
Most criminals are a bit thick.
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Post by voice on Jul 18, 2023 16:31:28 GMT
And these education schemes are proposed at all levels, from high school upwards, and we're talking community collage style and costs, not Harvard and Yale.
Ignoring the hysterics from team idiot, this is a good scheme.
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Post by voice on Jul 18, 2023 16:34:38 GMT
Most criminals are a bit thick. I'm sure some are, like being recorded committing election interference, but many are not. In face I remember reading some crims rank very high, psychopaths especially for some reason, though no amount of rehab will ever make them safe for release, they might join the Tories, if they're not already in. |
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Post by rick49 on Jul 18, 2023 18:23:37 GMT
People appear to forget that felons are part of, and a result of, our society. We made them. have to disagree with that. they made themselves. i never liked the criminals are the victims or absolving them of their crimes and blaming their actions on others. |
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Post by rick49 on Jul 18, 2023 18:29:30 GMT
What do you prefer? They are left completely at a disadvantage for reentry into society. through their own chosen actions. nobody forced someone to murder their kids. nobody forced someone to rape a 3 year old baby. why should they be rewarded? |
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Post by rick49 on Jul 19, 2023 2:00:26 GMT
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Post by mids on Jul 19, 2023 7:45:15 GMT
Vengeance is a good thing. It's an essential part of justice.
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Post by wetkingcanute on Jul 19, 2023 8:49:35 GMT
No, not vengeance mids -that's wrong.
Retribution - that's perfectly acceptable.
Nemesis - the Goddess of Retribution.
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Post by mids on Jul 19, 2023 9:01:03 GMT
"A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me."
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 19, 2023 11:41:23 GMT
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 19, 2023 11:41:36 GMT
Most criminals are a bit thick. Citation? |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 19, 2023 11:42:19 GMT
People appear to forget that felons are part of, and a result of, our society. We made them. have to disagree with that. they made themselves. i never liked the criminals are the victims or absolving them of their crimes and blaming their actions on others. Whether you like it or not does it make it less true. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 19, 2023 11:43:17 GMT
What do you prefer? They are left completely at a disadvantage for reentry into society. through their own chosen actions. nobody forced someone to murder their kids. nobody forced someone to rape a 3 year old baby. why should they be rewarded? So you prefer that they are left completely at a disadvantage for re-entering society increasing the risk of recidivism? How is society helped by having higher levels of reoffending? |
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Post by mids on Jul 19, 2023 11:56:51 GMT
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Post by happyhammerhead on Jul 19, 2023 12:33:26 GMT
What do you prefer? They are left completely at a disadvantage for reentry into society. through their own chosen actions. nobody forced someone to murder their kids. nobody forced someone to rape a 3 year old baby. why should they be rewarded? Seems to me that the attitude of rehabiiitating criminals is aimed at those who turned to crime to get by, either because they were not offered education or refused it. It shouldn't be aimed at baby-rapers. Nobody sensible thinks a course in Geography is going to sort them out... Or anyone else come to think of it. |
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Post by happyhammerhead on Jul 19, 2023 12:35:53 GMT
[Seriously though, where are people getting this idea that criminals are not mostly thickos? Moriarty? Bond villians? Mind you, they did always lose in the end. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 19, 2023 14:16:28 GMT
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Post by mids on Jul 19, 2023 14:29:45 GMT
There you go, dude. Although obviously, you'll just embarrass yourself by not understanding it. "Along with sex and age, intelligence stands out as one of the most consistent predictors of criminal and antisocial behaviors. Decades of studies from multiple disciplines have shown that, on average, individuals with lower IQ scores are more likely to engage in antisocial behavior relative to individuals with higher IQ scores (Beaver et al., 2013, Herrnstein and Murray, 1994, Jolliffe and Farrington, 2004, Kratzer and Hodgins, 1999, Neisser et al., 1996). Lower overall levels of intelligence have also been found to be associated with a wide range of criminal offending including violent offenses such as sexual assault (Cantor, Blanchard, Robichaud, & Christensen, 2005), murder (Dwyer & Frierson, 2006), and other forms of interpersonal violence (Kearns & O'Connor, 1988). Additional studies have demonstrated a negative association between intelligence and offending versatility, wherein offenders with lower levels of intelligence are more likely to engage in a greater variety of criminal acts (Frisell et al., 2012, Nevin, 2000, Walsh, 1987, Walsh and Beyer, 1986). In addition to studies examining the association between intelligence and criminal behaviors, a related body of literature has documented negative associations between intelligence and contact with the criminal justice system (Beaver et al., 2013, Diamond et al., 2012, Fergusson et al., 2005, Hirschi and Hindelang, 1977, Loeber et al., 2012, Yun and Lee, 2013). These patterns have also been replicated at higher levels of aggregation, such as neighborhoods (Beaver & Wright, 2011), states (Bartels et al., 2010, McDaniel, 2006), and even nations (Rushton & Templer, 2009). In perhaps the most comprehensive study examining the IQ-offending association at the macro-level, Rushton and Templer (2009) utilized previously estimated national IQ scores (Lynn & Vanhanen, 2006) and crime statistics from 116 countries. Even after controlling for a host of covariates, the results revealed a significant and negative association between intelligence and criminal offending, providing evidence of a robust pattern that persists across geographic regions and cultural contexts." www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S016028961500077X#preview-section-cited-by |
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Post by ootlg on Jul 19, 2023 14:47:24 GMT
Don't you think maybe it's the inability to avoid capture that pushes up the thicko figures? The cuties don't get caught.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 20, 2023 6:39:11 GMT
That's a good point. I've known a few people whose conduct was frequently criminal, but they knew that they would never go to jail, even in the unlikely event that they were caught.
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