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Post by voice on Sept 1, 2023 20:55:57 GMT
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Post by mids on Sept 2, 2023 9:04:19 GMT
Rum do. "Mahek Bukhari was a burgeoning TikTok star, with a mother who enthusiastically supported her influencer daughter. But an ill-fated affair saw both their lives unravel into deceit, blackmail, and ultimately murder. Mahek, from Stoke-on-Trent, had set her sights on a social media career after dropping out of university. It was starting to pay off. She had nearly 129,000 followers and was earning an income through brand promotions - with parties and product launch events up and down the country. She also boasted about an "elite relationship" with her mother, Ansreen, who often joined in her videos. But when Ansreen met 21-year-old Saqib Hussain, it sparked a chain of events that ended in tragedy, and ultimately saw both mother and daughter convicted of double murder. Both have now been sentenced to life in prison, with Mahek ordered to serve at least 31 years and eight months, and Ansreen given a minimum term of 26 years and nine months."  www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-66307221 |
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 2, 2023 10:00:39 GMT
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 2, 2023 10:01:52 GMT
This woman has definitely said at one point “Spare the Rod, Spoil the child”. Wonder what the father(s) think of this form of “parenting”.
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Post by rick49 on Sept 2, 2023 16:49:33 GMT
Newest NATO Country Escalates Prosecution Of Christians For Quoting The Bible"In an appeals court Thursday, Helsinki’s top prosecutor said publicly quoting the Bible and publishing a booklet about Christian sexual ethics violates Finland’s “hate speech” law. The appeal escalates this U.S. ally’s prosecution of dissidents from leftist politics, a marker of repressive regimes. The prosecutor has charged Member of Parliament Paivi Rasanen and Bishop Juhana Pohjola for writing and publishing, respectively, a booklet supporting natural marriage." "Pohjola said in a post-court press conference Friday morning U.S. time. He noted convicting a religious leader for publishing theological documents would in effect criminalize Christianity in Finland and encourage similar oppression worldwide." thefederalist.com/2023/09/01/newest-nato-country-escalates-prosecution-of-christians-for-quoting-the-bible/but publishing books supporting gay marriage are ok. and guess who gets to decide what constitutes hate speech.
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Post by voice on Sept 2, 2023 18:27:30 GMT
Many places don't actually like US funded hate groups distributing hateful literature designed to promote discord and discrimination.
Good on Finland shutting these dark aged inspired barbarians down.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 2, 2023 18:41:47 GMT
I don't know, buy I think it's milder than that: this seems more like Northern European rationalism, i.e the separation of the Church and State. I'm all for it. I'm happy to have a spiritual and moral leadership into politics but, certainly in the case of UK, I have serious reservations about the ability of our established church to provide it.
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Post by voice on Sept 2, 2023 18:47:32 GMT
Or any church or religion tbf.
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Post by mids on Sept 2, 2023 19:30:53 GMT
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Post by happyhammerhead on Sept 2, 2023 19:31:18 GMT
but publishing books supporting gay marriage are ok. and guess who gets to decide what constitutes hate speech. The booklet is an anti-gayer rant though. The front cover states - MALE AND FEMALE HE CREATED THEM
Homosexual relationships challenge the Christian concept of humanityThere is nothing positive in that. It isn't promoting Christian values, it's a diatribe on the evil queers. FFS, it's the 21st century. Bum bandits and carpet munchers have been around since the year dot, get over it. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 2, 2023 20:55:55 GMT
As have people that recognise that.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 3, 2023 10:24:09 GMT
Newest NATO Country Escalates Prosecution Of Christians For Quoting The Bible"In an appeals court Thursday, Helsinki’s top prosecutor said publicly quoting the Bible and publishing a booklet about Christian sexual ethics violates Finland’s “hate speech” law. The appeal escalates this U.S. ally’s prosecution of dissidents from leftist politics, a marker of repressive regimes. The prosecutor has charged Member of Parliament Paivi Rasanen and Bishop Juhana Pohjola for writing and publishing, respectively, a booklet supporting natural marriage." "Pohjola said in a post-court press conference Friday morning U.S. time. He noted convicting a religious leader for publishing theological documents would in effect criminalize Christianity in Finland and encourage similar oppression worldwide." thefederalist.com/2023/09/01/newest-nato-country-escalates-prosecution-of-christians-for-quoting-the-bible/but publishing books supporting gay marriage are ok. and guess who gets to decide what constitutes hate speech. Why are you bringing up gay marriage - what does it have to do with this story? Also they did not merely promote straight marriage did they: “ MALE AND FEMALE HE CREATED THEM Homosexual relationships challenge the Christian concept of humanity Päivi Räsänen” “ In court Thursday, prosecutor Anu Mantila disagreed, claiming, “Condemning homosexual acts condemns homosexuals as human beings,” according to English-language local reporting. Using the Bible’s word “sin” to describe any non-marital sexual acts violates “sexual rights” and is “insulting” and “degrading,” Mantila argued, according to an Alliance Defending Freedom International (ADFI) account from the courtroom.” They could have defended straight marriage without mentioning homosexuality. They chose not to and are dealing with the consequences. |
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 3, 2023 10:29:40 GMT
“ Due to Communist influence, much of the West has enacted speech restrictions similar to Finland’s. That includes dozens of U.S. states and cities. All it would take is courts to interpret hate speech laws the way these Finnish prosecutors are arguing to criminalize Christianity across the West.”
LOLS
American right-wingers “everything I hate is Communism”.
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Post by rick49 on Sept 3, 2023 12:59:04 GMT
FFS, it's the 21st century. Bum bandits and carpet munchers have been around since the year dot,
of course they have. but i don't think thats the whole point. what is the purpose of female and male sex in higher animals? to procreate. gays and lesbians obviously cannot do that. humans rut because it's pleasurable, but pleasure isn't the primary reason of sex. i didn't see anything in the article where they demand gays and lesbians be killed. they were just stating their beliefs. we are already well down the road of banning anything someone somewhere deems hate speech and it's not going to end well for anyone.
and i would find it interesting if they are banning muslim booklets that print their beliefs.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 3, 2023 13:06:03 GMT
FFS, it's the 21st century. Bum bandits and carpet munchers have been around since the year dot,of course they have. but i don't think thats the whole point. what is the purpose of female and male sex in higher animals? to procreate. gays and lesbians obviously cannot do that. humans rut because it's pleasurable, but pleasure isn't the primary reason of sex. i didn't see anything in the article where they demand gays and lesbians be killed. they were just stating their beliefs. we are already well down the road of banning anything someone somewhere deems hate speech and it's not going to end well for anyone. and i would find it interesting if they are banning muslim booklets that print their beliefs. So as long as they don’t call for gays to be killed any other homophobic vitriol is ok? The point is they did not merely produce a leaflet promoting the benefits of straight marriage - it was a rant about homosexuality. You are determined to ignore that important nuance. Also gays and lesbians do actually procreate. Plenty of gay men and women are parents. |
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Post by rick49 on Sept 3, 2023 13:08:48 GMT
the point is banishing something someone says because someone else doesn't like it. how does that strengthen freedom of speech?
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 3, 2023 14:15:13 GMT
the point is banishing something someone says because someone else doesn't like it. how does that strengthen freedom of speech? Free speech has always had limits which is why hate speech is illegal. But we are pointing out your earlier statement is incorrect. They did not merely write a leaflet talking about straight marriage. They could have done that without mentioning homosexuality but they chose not to. |
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Post by rick49 on Sept 3, 2023 14:27:27 GMT
in this case it's Christianity. don't like/disagree with what they believe or say, shut em down. ban their pamphlets as hate speech. punish them. but it's occurring in just about everything. disagree with the trans movement? why, thats hate speech too. you must accept it,,,or be punished. same with "global boiling."
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Post by rick49 on Sept 3, 2023 14:32:05 GMT
Free speech has always had limits which is why hate speech is illegal.
and it's your side that is always the determiner of what is or isn't hate speech. nice and convenient, isn't it?
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 3, 2023 16:55:55 GMT
in this case it's Christianity. don't like/disagree with what they believe or say, shut em down. ban their pamphlets as hate speech. punish them. but it's occurring in just about everything. disagree with the trans movement? why, thats hate speech too. you must accept it,,,or be punished. same with "global boiling." Free speech has always had limits. That is not new. Hate speech is excluded. |
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