Al Franken, bit of a perv as well

[rick49]

"Democrats in congress have come down on Franken, who himself said there should be an ethics investigation into his conduct.
Are you running interference for the pussy-grabber and the pedophile?"

Once again, no. What I have been arguing is that allegations of wrongdoing should not be accepted as proof of wrongdoing. Thats wild west or Salem witch trials era of mob justice. Once again, I don't like Moore. If he did what is claimed, he can rot in prison. In prison, child molesters get special treatment (not good) from other inmates.

[Marshall]

Abortion should be legal. If not, women will get them anyway in dangerous and less controlled ways (you can forget about the age of the fetus then).

Along with that:
- Birth control should be basically free, readily available and not contingent on any supposed "morals" or "fiscal reasons", which are bullsh!t from the get-go.
- Abortion should not be (and rarely then will be) used as a retroactive form of birth control.
- The lives of children who are already born should be cared for just as much as unborn children. If you're going to cut funding for children's welfare programs and education then you don't really give a damn and are just being a hypocrite (again).

[Marshall]

Nov 22, 2017 1:06:08 GMT rick49 said:

"Democrats in congress have come down on Franken, who himself said there should be an ethics investigation into his conduct.
Are you running interference for the pussy-grabber and the pedophile?"

Once again, no. What I have been arguing is that allegations of wrongdoing should not be accepted as proof of wrongdoing. Thats wild west or Salem witch trials era of mob justice. Once again, I don't like Moore. If he did what is claimed, he can rot in prison. In prison, child molesters get special treatment (not good) from other inmates.

Agree with you. I haven't read on the Conyers story yet, but it seems to me that Rose, Weinstein and Moore are likely guilty of the accusations. And why should Moore have the chance of being elected with what has been revealed? Doesn't sound like made up allegations at all.

[voice]

Nov 22, 2017 0:52:25 GMT rick49 said:

"not that its going to register for you Rick, you are after all immune to facts, but some of us just feel the need for the truth to be stated clearly now and then. you will also note that Alabama has term limits in place, so again, you just made sh!t up or pretended to see some other made up sh!t about the Dem wanting termination at 9 months (a claim you still have failed to back up from a credible source)"

Abortion stat numbers have nothing to do with what he said. He said he only supports a childs right to life after it's out of the womb. So he supports the killing of a healthy, fully functioning baby right up to the split second it is fully out of the womb.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=E23p2v-RIfo

Credible enough? Probably not.

Well what he said is nothing like the bullcrap you're saying he said, as I said, you live in a fact free zone and are impervious to all attempts to ground you in reality.

[Repat Van]

Nov 22, 2017 1:10:18 GMT Marshall said:

Abortion should be legal. If not, women will get them anyway in dangerous and less controlled ways (you can forget about the age of the fetus then).

Along with that:
- Birth control should be basically free, readily available and not contingent on any supposed "morals" or "fiscal reasons", which are bullsh!t from the get-go.
- Abortion should not be (and rarely then will be) used as a retroactive form of birth control.
- The lives of children who are already born should be cared for just as much as unborn children. If you're going to cut funding for children's welfare programs and education then you don't really give a damn and are just being a hypocrite (again).

All of this. I have never understood the anti abortion who are also against better, more readily available contraception and also against better welfare support. Surely if you wish to reduce the number of terminations you need to focus on avoiding pregnancies in the first place and then providing more support to women after the fact to enable them to see having the child is a feasible option if they so wish.

[Repat Van]

Nov 22, 2017 0:52:25 GMT rick49 said:

"not that its going to register for you Rick, you are after all immune to facts, but some of us just feel the need for the truth to be stated clearly now and then. you will also note that Alabama has term limits in place, so again, you just made sh!t up or pretended to see some other made up sh!t about the Dem wanting termination at 9 months (a claim you still have failed to back up from a credible source)"

Abortion stat numbers have nothing to do with what he said. He said he only supports a childs right to life after it's out of the womb. So he supports the killing of a healthy, fully functioning baby right up to the split second it is fully out of the womb.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=E23p2v-RIfo

Credible enough? Probably not.

So he doesn’t support killing 9 month old children then. Which was your earlier, incorrect statement.

[Repat Van]

Nov 21, 2017 22:19:50 GMT rick49 said:

"Well it’s not killing. It’s choosing not to allow another person to make biological use of your organs."

Wow. How dare an unborn baby use it's mothers organs. The gall. So now you are denying ending the life of an unborn baby is killing. What is this,,,the New Biology?

I’m ‘denying’ that an unborn child is a 9 month old baby which was your incorrect statement.

You’re wrong on that. Sorry.

As for an unborn child using its mothers organs - I think the unborn should have the same access to their mothers organs as the born - i.e. only with her permission.

But that’s by the by. You claimed he supported infanticide. You lied.

[Repat Van]

Nov 21, 2017 23:59:38 GMT voice said:

A common myth is that there are thousands and thousands of “nine month”or “late-term” abortions every year in the United States.In fact, every time I write on the subject I get comments like this one, regarding “partial birth abortion,”

Fortunately there is actual data to tell us how many abortions are performed every year and at what gestational age. And no, we don’t get this data from ex-employees or YouTube, we can get it from the Centers for Disease Control. I will assume for these purposes that late-term means at or after 24 weeks (i.e. after viability). And as an aside the “Planned Parenthood video” that showed a delivery looked like a premature non-viable delivery, a far cry from term or “nine months” with no evidence at all to suggest it was an abortion.

Seven states and the District of Columbia currently have no gestational age limit for abortion. It would then only be in these states that post viability abortions would be happening. Other states do have some exemptions, for example Arkansas and Utah allow later-term abortions in cases of rape or incest, and some states have later-term exceptions for lethal anomalies

Of the 699,202 abortions reported to the CDC in 2012, 0.17% were at or after 21 weeks and occurred in a state where it was possible to have a post viability abortion for any reason.

There are obviously very few late-term (post 24 week) pregnancy terminations in the United States. Most of the 1.3% of abortions at or after 21 weeks are for anomalies and the vast majority are before 24 weeks. There are approximately 600 abortions a year after 24 weeks and most are for fetal anomalies.

drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/10/27/how-many-late-term-abortions-are-really-performed-in-the-united-states/

not that its going to register for you Rick, you are after all immune to facts, but some of us just feel the need for the truth to be stated clearly now and then. you will also note that Alabama has term limits in place, so again, you just made sh!t up or pretended to see some other made up sh!t about the Dem wanting termination at 9 months (a claim you still have failed to back up from a credible source)

He didn’t Even say “terminations at 9 months”. He said “9 month old babies”. A very different beast!

[Repat Van]

Nov 22, 2017 1:16:16 GMT Marshall said:

Nov 22, 2017 1:06:08 GMT rick49 said:

"Democrats in congress have come down on Franken, who himself said there should be an ethics investigation into his conduct.
Are you running interference for the pussy-grabber and the pedophile?"

Once again, no. What I have been arguing is that allegations of wrongdoing should not be accepted as proof of wrongdoing. Thats wild west or Salem witch trials era of mob justice. Once again, I don't like Moore. If he did what is claimed, he can rot in prison. In prison, child molesters get special treatment (not good) from other inmates.

Agree with you. I haven't read on the Conyers story yet, but it seems to me that Rose, Weinstein and Moore are likely guilty of the accusations. And why should Moore have the chance of being elected with what has been revealed? Doesn't sound like made up allegations at all.

Weinstein has already admitted to much of what he is accused of so not sure why that is still up for debate.

As for Moore, “innocent until proven guilty” is for a court of law. It is still very reasonable for an electorate to look at the weight of accusations, the consistency of accusers stories, the fact he was banned for a mall for being a perv and decide, on a personal level whether this is a man they wish to vote for.

[Deleted]

Is this the "get your rocks off and screw the facts" thread? Most of you are talking cross-purpose desperately trying to prove some point or other. How unproductive.

[Repat Van]

You’re not obliged to read nor respond.

[rick49]

"Meanwhile, Rose is fired by CBS, PBS and Bloomberg.
Democrats in congress have come down on Franken, who himself said there should be an ethics investigation into his conduct.
Are you running interference for the pussy-grabber and the pedophile?"

I'm running interference for lefties? Ok, whatever.

[rick49]

Nov 22, 2017 1:06:08 GMT rick49 said:

"Democrats in congress have come down on Franken, who himself said there should be an ethics investigation into his conduct.
Are you running interference for the pussy-grabber and the pedophile?"

Once again, no. What I have been arguing is that allegations of wrongdoing should not be accepted as proof of wrongdoing. Thats wild west or Salem witch trials era of mob justice. Once again, I don't like Moore. If he did what is claimed, he can rot in prison. In prison, child molesters get special treatment (not good) from other inmates.

Scratch that. My mistake. Moore wouldn't go to prison for child molestation because Alabama has a statute of limitation on that crime. Lots of states do. I thought child molestation didn't have a statute of limitaion.

[Deleted]

Nov 22, 2017 9:26:54 GMT Repat Van said:

You’re not obliged to read nor respond.

The problem is, you have some sort of beef with rick49 to the point of making yourself look even more stupid than usual, notably the 9 month issue. It's so f**k**g tedious when you get in one of your inflexible won't-consider-anyone-else's-pov modes.

[clarity]

I don't suffer idiots gladly either. Rick comes up with some weird stuff that needs to be challenged. New born babies being 9 months old is just one of the more weirder things he's posted.

[Deleted]

Which wasn't his point. But you know that.

[Repat Van]

Nov 22, 2017 18:56:05 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

Which wasn't his point. But you know that.

WHen somebody refers to “9 month old babies” I assume they are talking about 9 month old babies.

[Repat Van]

Nov 22, 2017 11:35:13 GMT rick49 said:

"Meanwhile, Rose is fired by CBS, PBS and Bloomberg.
Democrats in congress have come down on Franken, who himself said there should be an ethics investigation into his conduct.
Are you running interference for the pussy-grabber and the pedophile?"

I'm running interference for lefties? Ok, whatever.

Trump and Moore are Lefties?

Ok.

[Repat Van]

Nov 22, 2017 18:13:07 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

Nov 22, 2017 9:26:54 GMT Repat Van said:

You’re not obliged to read nor respond.

The problem is, you have some sort of beef with rick49 to the point of making yourself look even more stupid than usual, notably the 9 month issue. It's so f**k**g tedious when you get in one of your inflexible won't-consider-anyone-else's-pov modes.

Once again - you’re not obliged to read nor respond.

In fact considering the mess you’re making of yourself (nobody has a “beef” with Rick - how old are you?) it’s best you don’t.

[mids]

Sulu.