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Post by mids on Aug 27, 2019 14:28:58 GMT
I can't get my head around how all those Corbynista remain types ever thought that Corbyn was on their side. Even now, you still see some of them commenting in the Guardian about how hard he campaigned for remain. They're completely delusional. He. was. always. a. lex. it. er.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 14:53:25 GMT
Corbynista remain types? If indeed they exist they belong in the same camp as Mayhem/Johnson Brexit types.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 27, 2019 15:43:16 GMT
Trump bothers me, for obvious reasons. But British lefties getting hung up on US gun laws, US immigration law, US institutionalised racism, US birth control and abortion laws, the US health insurance system, and all those other things that have no impact at all on Britain, is very odd.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 6:26:01 GMT
Something to squeal at I suppose. They can get very indignant, although oddly not about Albania, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, China, Russia, or any of the other vicious bastard countries on the planet. It's a hate US thing. Been fashionable for the 'lefties' forever.
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 8:17:14 GMT
Breaking News is that the Government IS expected to announce the suspending of Parliament, limiting the time MPs will have to block a No Deal.
What else this augurs is perhaps moot.
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Post by bertruss2 on Aug 28, 2019 9:00:24 GMT
Apparently, the Privy Council has a quorum when three of them meet Her Majesty. It's an odd thing the British Constitution and the tricks you can play with it.
Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg travelled to Balmoral to convene a brief Privy Council meeting, echoing the Prime Minister's line after his meeting that the suspension was a normal parliamentary procedure. (The Scotsman)
ORDERS APPROVED AT THE PRIVY COUNCIL HELD BY THE QUEEN AT BALMORAL ON 28TH AUGUST 2019 COUNSELLORS PRESENT The Rt Hon Jacob Rees-Mogg (Lord President) The Rt Hon Baroness Evans of Bowe Park The Rt Hon Mark Spencer
Prorogation
Order proroguing Parliament no earlier than Monday 9th September and no later than Thursday 12th September2019 to Monday 14th October2019, and directing the Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain to prepare a Commission accordingly. (The Guardian website)
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Post by whitewine on Aug 28, 2019 9:21:09 GMT
Should imagine the queen is more bothered about blocking the press from getting access to Andrew.
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Post by bertruss2 on Aug 28, 2019 10:37:43 GMT
Under the Boris plan, Parliament returns for three days and is then shut down until the Queen's speech on 14 October.
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 10:56:53 GMT
Remember this ... "Leaving would mean that we would be taking back control. That those we elect as MPs would be the ones who make and decide our laws, rather than a bunch of unelected old men in Brussels who most people cannot name and who we cannot vote for or remove. Leaving the European Union would revitalise our democracy and mean that the big decisions were made by us instead of for us. I believe we're big enough and good enough to govern our own country." Farage - Monday 20 June 2016 Full link: www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu-referendum-brexit-nigel-farage-on-why-you-should-vote-to-leave-a7091021.htmlAny notion that the modern Tory party or Farage's latest ego-fuelled flutter has anything to do with Parliamentary democracy is now provably fanciful.
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Post by mids on Aug 28, 2019 10:56:56 GMT
Perspective people. Is it any worse than the remain shenanigans of using archaic rules to block the government? No, it's not. Mind I can't say that I'm particularly comfortable with the way either side has used the rules in an equal way. Also, given that the previous proroguing was because of the expenses scandal, I wonder how many shrieking, hysterical remain MPs were absolutely fine with it last time? order-order.com/2019/08/28/boriss-prorogation-will-shorter-majors/
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Post by charmingnortherner on Aug 28, 2019 11:19:16 GMT
A clue for the simpleton remainersThe "Constitutional Outrage" Bercow is shrieking about: "...all this means is that three days of Parliamentary sittings will be lost in the week after the party conferences. Let me just repeat that - three days 8, 9 and 10 of October."
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Post by charmingnortherner on Aug 28, 2019 11:21:13 GMT
Remember this ... "Leaving would mean that we would be taking back control. That those we elect as MPs would be the ones who make and decide our laws, rather than a bunch of unelected old men in Brussels who most people cannot name and who we cannot vote for or remove. Leaving the European Union would revitalise our democracy and mean that the big decisions were made by us instead of for us. I believe we're big enough and good enough to govern our own country." Farage - Monday 20 June 2016 Full link: www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu-referendum-brexit-nigel-farage-on-why-you-should-vote-to-leave-a7091021.htmlAny notion that the modern Tory party or Farage's latest ego-fuelled flutter has anything to do with Parliamentary democracy is now provably fanciful. You fvcking halfwit. Mind you don't whack yourself in the chin with your knee jerk reaction.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 11:28:53 GMT
Bozza's taken the car keys off a bunch of persistent dri drink drivers.
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 12:02:22 GMT
Remember this ... "Leaving would mean that we would be taking back control. That those we elect as MPs would be the ones who make and decide our laws, rather than a bunch of unelected old men in Brussels who most people cannot name and who we cannot vote for or remove. Leaving the European Union would revitalise our democracy and mean that the big decisions were made by us instead of for us. I believe we're big enough and good enough to govern our own country." Farage - Monday 20 June 2016 Full link: www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu-referendum-brexit-nigel-farage-on-why-you-should-vote-to-leave-a7091021.htmlAny notion that the modern Tory party or Farage's latest ego-fuelled flutter has anything to do with Parliamentary democracy is now provably fanciful. You fvcking halfwit. Mind you don't whack yourself in the chin with your knee jerk reaction. More incisive analysis knee-jerk name-calling from one for whom this is the only tool in his box. You can be proud of yourself, sir.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 13:32:09 GMT
The BBC's gone into meltdown. Brilliant.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 28, 2019 13:36:06 GMT
At least the government has become fully transparent in its distaste for democracy and parliament now. That all the harking back "mother of parliaments" nonsense is bollocks, that the "unwritten constitution is the greatest and most resilient" blah blah blah is evidently cockrot. And now Boris has decided to force the queen - who has to stay out of politics for her role to work - into making an explicitly political decision.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 28, 2019 13:39:33 GMT
It's such a moronic and anti-democratic move that I wonder if Boris is actually playing a more multi-layered game than I gave him credit for. I'm pretty sure it's going to have to be shut down, right? Nobody can let this pass. And at that point he'll be able to make claims about the deep state stopping him, about how he's been thwarted. And doing that at the same time as managing to get away with not delivering the hard Brexit that he know would destroy his government in weeks.
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Post by mids on Aug 28, 2019 13:40:08 GMT
Proroguings great. I've always said. So very, very democratic.
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 28, 2019 13:53:28 GMT
Didn't someone say this recently: "Mind I can't say that I'm particularly comfortable with the way either side has used the rules in an equal way"?
Well, I suppose that if something that you're not "particularly comfortable with" is nevertheless "great", then I now understand better your belief that No Deal is a kind of Deal.
Madness. Utter madness.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 28, 2019 14:28:45 GMT
Great work. The fascistic forces of Project Fear/Smug, selfish fucknucklery have been flat-footed, wet-legged and puce with impotent fury. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632HMQ is onside too.
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