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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2019 5:50:51 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 5:51:25 GMT
Nah. I don't buy your "happy hooker" trope. I have never advanced that trope. It’s a job. Like any other job it will go from good days, to sh*t days. Some people love it. Some hate it. Some are directed by crappy circumstances and others not. But nonetheless it’s incredibly patronising to refer to sex workers (or as you patronisingly call them “prostitutes”) as being used. Prostitute is what they are.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2019 6:11:18 GMT
I have never advanced that trope. It’s a job. Like any other job it will go from good days, to sh*t days. Some people love it. Some hate it. Some are directed by crappy circumstances and others not. But nonetheless it’s incredibly patronising to refer to sex workers (or as you patronisingly call them “prostitutes”) as being used. Prostitute is what they are. It’s amazing how those who allege to be concerned about sexual workers and apparent “using” of them are also incredibly disparaging of them as people. The inconsistency is mind boggling. Anyway Divine is very approving of the impact of Grant on her life so I am not going to speak over her.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 6:13:01 GMT
It's the correct term. Look it up.
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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2019 6:13:59 GMT
"not going to speak over her."
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 6:14:01 GMT
I wonder if Divine is quite so enthusiastic about all of her clients.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 6:46:41 GMT
"Not this whine about people not being eligible to vote nor getting the right to vote." You wouldn't understand the mechanics of civilised society, the right to vote etc, so stick to gender confusion and racism which seems to be your thing. “Civilised society” *scoffs* - please. The only reason you wanted EU citizens living in the U.K. to vote is to have the vote go the way you wanted. Nothing to do with civility blah blah. It’s perfectly normally for countries to restrict who can vote and frequently referenda are restricted to citizens. Britain actually went a step further. You’re just mad that they didn’t using voter eligibility to force the vote to go a certain way. At least be honest about it. At least try to get it right. I was referring to UK citizens living in the EU - potentially the most negatively affected by Brexit - who were promised a vote by the Tory party but ultimately denied it through a failure (by design?) of the current Tory administration. Nothing to do with EU citizens living in the UK.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 6:53:02 GMT
"UK citizens living in the EU - potentially the most negatively affected by Brexit - who were promised a vote by the Tory party"
Link? Genuine question.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 6:57:10 GMT
I'll get back on that. Work now... in 30+deg. Ugh.
Case you accuse me of flouncing.
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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2019 7:21:49 GMT
Apparently it's 25 degrees with a nice cooling breeze outside the EU.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2019 7:22:06 GMT
“Civilised society” *scoffs* - please. The only reason you wanted EU citizens living in the U.K. to vote is to have the vote go the way you wanted. Nothing to do with civility blah blah. It’s perfectly normally for countries to restrict who can vote and frequently referenda are restricted to citizens. Britain actually went a step further. You’re just mad that they didn’t using voter eligibility to force the vote to go a certain way. At least be honest about it. At least try to get it right. I was referring to UK citizens living in the EU - potentially the most negatively affected by Brexit - who were promised a vote by the Tory party but ultimately denied it through a failure (by design?) of the current Tory administration. Nothing to do with EU citizens living in the UK. If those U.K. citizens living in the EU were there for less than 15 years they had a vote. If more than that that then that’s on them for being so lazy they could not be bothered to arrange citizenship in their chosen new place of abode.
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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2019 7:51:09 GMT
I don't really see why people who have lived elsewhere for a long time should get a vote. 15 years seems like a good compromise and it puts us in about the middle of what most countries do. I didn't get to vote in the Scottish referendum but I didn't moan about it. Those were the rules.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 30, 2019 8:23:14 GMT
15 years is plenty long enough for them to have sorted a more permanent situation in their chosen country of residence.
I mean bloody hell!
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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2019 8:30:05 GMT
It's a very long time. I think there some countries that don't have a limit. It seems odd that you'd have a say so on how a country that you might never go back to is run.
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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2019 10:08:40 GMT
Up the Scots! A judge in Edinburgh has told remainers tae pish right oaf! Some remainer legal challenge or another
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 11:13:39 GMT
Great people. Very prudent. I've always said so.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 30, 2019 11:25:18 GMT
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Post by whitewine on Aug 30, 2019 11:59:37 GMT
A £3m grant to help UK nationals living in the EU with residency applications has been set up by the government. Charities and voluntary organisations will be able to use the money to support UK nationals preparing for Brexit with a focus on those who may struggle with the paperwork. This includes pensioners, disabled people, those in remote areas, and those needing translation help. About 1.3m UK-born people are resident in the EU. Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said the government wanted to help UK nationals be "fully ready for Brexit, whatever the circumstances". Under the withdrawal deal agreed between Theresa May and the EU, UK nationals would have kept their freedom of movement rights during a transition period. However the deal was repeatedly rejected by MPs and the UK is currently set to leave the EU on 31 October without a deal. There is uncertainty about what a no-deal exit would mean for Britons living in the EU but expats are being advised to register as residents of the country in which they live. The rules on residency - including deadlines for paperwork - vary from country to country. The European Commission has urged EU countries, in the event of a no deal, to "take a generous approach to the rights of UK citizens in the EU, provided that this approach is reciprocated by the UK". It says the EU27 "should adopt a pragmatic approach to granting temporary residence status". The Home Office has said that EU freedom of movement will end immediately after a no-deal Brexit. However migration experts have suggested this will not be possible without a system to work out who is legally in the country. The changes to freedom of movement will not directly affect Irish citizens because British and Irish ministers have signed a deal to guarantee free movement for their citizens crossing the Irish border and cross-border access for study and health care LINK
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 12:10:55 GMT
"UK citizens living in the EU - potentially the most negatively affected by Brexit - who were promised a vote by the Tory party" Link? Genuine question. Van's pretty much answered it, in a fashion, but here's a quickly Googled link which sums up the way many of us feel. March 2016. The Conservative (pre-referendum) manifesto at the last election pledged to do away with the restriction. It said: “We will complete the electoral register, by working to include more of the five million Britons who live abroad. We will introduce votes for life, scrapping the rule that bars British citizens who have lived abroad for more than 15 years from voting.” link
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Post by mids on Aug 30, 2019 12:47:14 GMT
Brexit you say?
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