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Post by flatandy on Sept 3, 2019 21:16:17 GMT
And a quick reminder that he can't "call an election". There are only 2 ways to get an election under the fixed term situation - either 66% of MPs agree to it, or the government falls after a No Confidence vote and then after 2 weeks no other party is able to form a government which holds the confidence of the house.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 21:16:30 GMT
He's lost and will call an election when he gets another spanking tomorrow Good. |
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Post by flatandy on Sept 3, 2019 21:16:41 GMT
Yes, but fortunately he lost today. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 21:17:22 GMT
Yes, but fortunately he lost today. Ha .....etc. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 21:18:12 GMT
First PM since Pitt the Younger to lose his very first parliamentary vote. Not exactly damning, that. |
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Post by mids on Sept 3, 2019 21:18:52 GMT
Remainers are shiting themelves at the thought of an election. They despise The People, see?
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Post by bertruss2 on Sept 3, 2019 21:20:27 GMT
The Tory defeat in the Commons paves the way for a vote tomorrow to block No-Deal Brexit.
Leader of the Scot Nats says SNP will back a referendum and campaign for Remain. Scotland voted massively to Remain, by 68% to 32% in 2016.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 21:23:55 GMT
GE then? Good. I hope we vote in actual fascists, complete with political sanitation squads.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 3, 2019 21:26:32 GMT
No need for a GE yet. The Non-Tories have a parliamentary majority. They should get a chance to form a government. That's the point of fixed term parliaments.
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Post by wetkingcanute on Sept 3, 2019 21:27:35 GMT
I'm not sure he can, legality, call a General Election.
As I understand it there wouldn't be the time to change the Fixed Term law - or indeed the majority to vote it through.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 21:29:23 GMT
No need, perhaps, but let's do it. Democracy's dead in UK. Might as well prove the point.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 3, 2019 21:30:27 GMT
We appear to have shown that democracy isn't dead. The executive doesn't have the power to ignore the elected representatives.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 21:32:15 GMT
Terrible, bleak night for decency, honour and democracy. Sad thing is, no matter how you voted in the referendum, this is an insult.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 3, 2019 21:33:47 GMT
Cry "havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war.
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Post by voice on Sept 3, 2019 21:39:31 GMT
bloody hell you are down on the PM today aren't you |
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Post by voice on Sept 3, 2019 21:41:49 GMT
wow the hysterics cos Bozo lost in his attempt to subvert the will of the peoples elected representatives, still we know how much the brextremits hate democracy.
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Post by bertruss2 on Sept 3, 2019 21:42:23 GMT
There will be a new electorate for the 2nd referendum. If all qualifying EU citizens have the vote, we can have a democratic result. The argument is that non-British EU citizens can vote in their own national parliamentary elections, so it's not unfair to bar them from British elections. Of course, there could be a choice, to cast your vote in your country of origin or your country of residence. In the referendum they were simply disenfranchised. Yet, Commonwealth citizens could vote.
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Post by voice on Sept 3, 2019 21:43:07 GMT
also shows how little Bozo's promises mean, he stated categorically a while back he would not back a no deal Brexit, if that was so, all this would not even be necessary.
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Post by voice on Sept 3, 2019 21:48:32 GMT
And I expect his promise to expel those Tories who displayed common decency and a respect for the will of parliament, by voting against him, will quickly be forgotten, he can't afford to expel them all, it would give Corbyn a chance to form government first before having a GE.
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Post by voice on Sept 3, 2019 22:01:49 GMT
well well, I was wrong, looks like they've just booted all 21 rebel Tories out.
Ken Clark's response is rather spot on.
Ken Clarke, one of the Tory rebels who faces losing the party whip, insists on BBC Newsnight that he is still a Conservative, but the party has changed.
He says "it’s been taken over by a rather knockabout character who has this bizarre 'crash-it-through' philosophy" and says the cabinet is "the most right-wing any Conservative Party has ever produced".
"They're not in control of events. The prime minister comes and talks complete rubbish to us."
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