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Post by unclejunior on Sept 7, 2019 9:32:47 GMT
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Post by bertruss2 on Sept 7, 2019 9:33:06 GMT
That's how Dominic Cummings won Brexit, as director of the Leave campaign. Treat Brexit like a product and sell it to the gullible masses for the benefit of the elite, the Eton and Oxford boys and the billionaire businessmen.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 7, 2019 11:55:28 GMT
Dominic Cummings is none of those things of course.
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Post by mids on Sept 7, 2019 12:07:53 GMT
Great man. Great, great man.
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Post by bertruss2 on Sept 7, 2019 12:24:34 GMT
Dominic Cummings is none of those things of course. He is a tool, as they see it. That's why they pay him. Now that he's been outed, he won't be as effective. A general election is not his speciality either. He's more into single issue campaigns. |
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Post by jimboky on Sept 7, 2019 13:18:30 GMT
why do the people who don't want to accept the results of the last election want another election? If they again vote Brexit they likely won't accept that one either,
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 7, 2019 13:40:58 GMT
Dominic Cummings is none of those things of course. He is a tool, as they see it. That's why they pay him. Now that he's been outed, he won't be as effective. A general election is not his speciality either. He's more into single issue campaigns. Ah, yes. Would this be the Supreme Order Lodge where they all sit around a huge table in a creepy castle on a hill? |
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Post by voice on Sept 7, 2019 14:40:00 GMT
why do the people who don't want to accept the results of the last election want another election? If they again vote Brexit they likely won't accept that one either, Well democracy is at a fundamental level a succession of do overs, don't like the result of an election, vote again in the next hoping enough agree with you. |
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Post by mids on Sept 7, 2019 14:44:53 GMT
Yeah but after an election, you don't normally get the incumbent saying, "well hang on a minute, let's not be too hasty here. Maybe we should just hang on to power?" Well you do sometimes but we all know what we think of those countries.
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Post by jimboky on Sept 7, 2019 14:47:09 GMT
if the Brexit were to win E2 would the remains accept the result?,, or go to E3? E4?,,,,
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Post by whitewine on Sept 7, 2019 14:53:26 GMT
MPs, including Tories expelled from the party, are preparing legal action in case the PM refuses to seek a delay to Brexit. A bill requiring Boris Johnson to ask for an extension to the UK's departure date to avoid a no-deal Brexit on 31 October is set to gain royal assent. But the PM has said he would "rather be dead in a ditch" than ask for a delay. Legal experts have warned the prime minister could go to prison if he refuses to comply with the new law LINK |
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Post by voice on Sept 7, 2019 16:38:11 GMT
if the Brexit were to win E2 would the remains accept the result?,, or go to E3? E4?,,,, Like the leave lot who lost the first referendum you might have those who campaign for the next 30 years to rejoin. As I say that's democracy, don't like the last vote, campaign to win the next one, if you have enough others agreeing with you you win, if not you carry on arguing your case. |
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Post by bertruss2 on Sept 7, 2019 16:38:46 GMT
if the Brexit were to win E2 would the remains accept the result?,, or go to E3? E4?,,,, 'Winning' Brexit means refusing to listen to reason. The silly section of the public is prepared to jump off the cliff. "It'll be just fine", the wealthy elite tell them. |
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Post by voice on Sept 7, 2019 16:41:10 GMT
MPs, including Tories expelled from the party, are preparing legal action in case the PM refuses to seek a delay to Brexit. A bill requiring Boris Johnson to ask for an extension to the UK's departure date to avoid a no-deal Brexit on 31 October is set to gain royal assent. But the PM has said he would "rather be dead in a ditch" than ask for a delay. Legal experts have warned the prime minister could go to prison if he refuses to comply with the new law LINKI'm sure its come as a shock to a bloke who spent his entire career backstabbing and undermining others in his scramble to the top to now find no one feels that obliged to show him any loyalty |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 7, 2019 16:46:20 GMT
Has he been working in the public sector then?
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Post by bertruss2 on Sept 7, 2019 16:56:29 GMT
Yeah but after an election, you don't normally get the incumbent saying, "well hang on a minute, let's not be too hasty here. Maybe we should just hang on to power?" Well you do sometimes but we all know what we think of those countries. A referendum is not an election. Anyway, Boris was not elected Prime Minister. He was elected Leader of the Conservative Party by the minuscule number of the British people who are party members. Voters do not elect a government. They elect an MP who represents the interests of their constituents. Governments only rule with the consent of Parliament and Parliament has blocked the Boris bonkers Brexit. Not Brexit. Only the bonkers Brexit which nobody voted for. Article 50 is what a faction of the 46 million electorate gave a majority to. This specifies that there shall be a Withdrawal Agreement. It's only because of the failure of the UK to pass the Agreement that the EU 27 are entitled to cancel our membership. Just because Boris has hung a sign on himself, saying "Kick me out", doesn't mean we have to follow his example. |
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Post by voice on Sept 7, 2019 22:01:25 GMT
Another one bites the dust, Rudd resigned as a minister and gives up the Tory whip, says Boris is dogsshit she'd rather not have on her shoe.
Still Daves plan to save the Tory party is working out well
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Post by voice on Sept 7, 2019 22:36:12 GMT
Meanwhile, clashes erupted between pro-Brexit protesters and police in Parliament Square in London.
Several hundred people joined pro and anti-Brexit demonstrations in Westminster.
Pro-leave protesters were seen throwing a metal barricade at officers, while others tried to break the police cordon.
Anti-Brexit MP Anna Soubry, who leads the Independent Group for Change, said she had been due to speak at the March for Change rally in London but told organisers she was too frightened to do so, after consulting with police.
A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said officers made 16 arrests in connection with the protests.
That included 13 arrests for violent disorder, one for possession of an offensive weapon, one for affray and one for a racially aggravated public order offence.
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Post by mids on Sept 8, 2019 0:00:36 GMT
"Anti-Brexit MP Anna Soubry, who leads the Independent Group for Change"
Isn't she the only one left? She'll have to lead it.
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 8, 2019 5:48:07 GMT
Meanwhile, clashes erupted between pro-Brexit protesters and police in Parliament Square in London. Several hundred people joined pro and anti-Brexit demonstrations in Westminster. Pro-leave protesters were seen throwing a metal barricade at officers, while others tried to break the police cordon. Anti-Brexit MP Anna Soubry, who leads the Independent Group for Change, said she had been due to speak at the March for Change rally in London but told organisers she was too frightened to do so, after consulting with police. A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said officers made 16 arrests in connection with the protests. That included 13 arrests for violent disorder, one for possession of an offensive weapon, one for affray and one for a racially aggravated public order offence. Link? |
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