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Post by mids on Oct 1, 2020 7:48:48 GMT
Yeah in some communities it's a sort of mobile system of unseen and unknown fathers.
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 1, 2020 8:16:22 GMT
Yeah in some communities it's a sort of mobile system of unseen and unknown fathers. Oh yes the only two family models. Nuclear or non-custodial parent (typically the father.) That whole extended family model just doesn’t exist anywhere... |
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Post by mids on Oct 1, 2020 8:32:34 GMT
You know the extended family is part of the nuclear family?
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 1, 2020 8:44:29 GMT
You know the extended family is part of the nuclear family? Sigh. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_familyA nuclear family, elementary family or conjugal family is a family group consisting of two parents (a man and a woman) and their children (one or more). It is in contrast to a single-parent family, the larger extended family, or a family with more than two parents. Nuclear families typically center on a married couple which may have any number of children |
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Post by mids on Oct 1, 2020 8:54:38 GMT
Do you know what a "nucleus" is?
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Post by mids on Oct 1, 2020 9:11:05 GMT
That article is blithering nonsense. It's got the hallmarks of having been written by a sociology A level pupil. This bit is like someone with £100 saying they've got £10.
"Family structures of a mixing couple and their children were present in Western Europe and New England in the 17th century, influenced by church and theocratic governments."
Really? Every time?
"An extended group consists of non-nuclear (or "non-immediate") family members considered together with nuclear (or "immediate") family members. When extended family is involved they also influence children's development just as much as the parents would on their own."
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Post by rick49 on Oct 16, 2020 11:00:46 GMT
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Post by rick49 on Oct 21, 2020 2:07:40 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 7, 2020 22:11:19 GMT
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Post by rick49 on Dec 8, 2020 10:00:30 GMT
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Post by mids on Dec 8, 2020 10:14:36 GMT
I don't understand why they can't just make up completely fictional identities. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 8, 2020 11:40:29 GMT
Because they need to be checkable against official legal records like Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages (the beauty of that is that you are often asked your place of birth, never your place of death and they are seldom the same.)
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Post by mids on Dec 8, 2020 11:54:35 GMT
Can't they just create completely fictional people with checkable records though? Maybe there are legal reasons why fictional, therefore forged, documents can't be created. Anyway, stealing dead kids' identities seems to annoy BBC types so there is that.
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 9, 2020 8:17:19 GMT
Agreed. I don't know any more than the basics, but I assume that they use existing IDs because they're ready-made and wouldn't require the involvement of others which would be a risk.
An existing ID would be checkable, but only so far using the resources available at the time. I suppose it's much more difficult now as you'd be able to look for evidence on Facebook etc. I dare say they've got people who can do that mind.
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Post by voice on Dec 9, 2020 15:15:55 GMT
Saw a thing years ago where MI5 and MI6 in the post war period used identities of people killed in the blitz, right up to the 80's, cos you can't enter someone into the official record fictitiously, so they use dead peoples ID's, so if anyone did a deep check they'd find a real person entered.
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Post by mids on Dec 9, 2020 15:33:46 GMT
I've probably been watching too many films/TV. I imagined they could just enter a few fictitious births in the register and then get a few supporting documents based on that. Probably highly illegal to interfere with Her Majesty's Register of Births, Marriages and Deaths or something like that.
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Post by voice on Dec 9, 2020 15:40:49 GMT
I suspect the truth is far more prosaic than the fiction.
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Post by rick49 on Dec 11, 2020 18:47:19 GMT
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Post by voice on Dec 12, 2020 21:36:05 GMT
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 12, 2020 22:20:01 GMT
Oh fFS, a BB gun. In UK there would be a multi-agency shitfest if a kid mentioned that an uncle was a Millwall fan ten years ago. I sh1t you not. |
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