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Post by Repat Van on Sept 19, 2020 9:12:05 GMT
Now you’re admitting to being thick! Well done Mids! I always say it but I had no idea you were also aware of your own shortcomings  |
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Post by mids on Sept 19, 2020 9:24:58 GMT
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Sept 19, 2020 10:14:48 GMT
"you'll inherit piss stained rubble"
I like that.
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Post by voice on Sept 19, 2020 12:27:57 GMT
you like piss stained rubble?
well, they say it takes all sorts.
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Post by rick49 on Sept 22, 2020 1:23:39 GMT
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 22, 2020 1:26:47 GMT
AI being racist is not a new concept. Or to put it more elegantly it is, coded and created by humans who may inadvertently pass on their biases. |
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Post by flatandy on Sept 22, 2020 11:25:42 GMT
I would imagine that an AI that’s trying to determine which images appeal to the racist public might appear to be racist itself.
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Post by mids on Sept 22, 2020 11:35:43 GMT
AI being racist is not a new concept. Or to put it more elegantly it is, coded and created by humans who may inadvertently pass on their biases. Elegantly? |
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Post by rick49 on Sept 22, 2020 21:08:28 GMT
Or to put it more elegantly it is, coded and created by humans who may inadvertently pass on their biases.
so it would be impossible for it not to be racist.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 23, 2020 2:29:43 GMT
Or to put it more elegantly it is, coded and created by humans who may inadvertently pass on their biases.so it would be impossible for it not to be racist. It holds the same biases that its programmers would hold. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 30, 2020 8:07:54 GMT
Bloody hell, how arse-whincingly gay: "Four postboxes have been painted black to honour black Britons including Sir Lenny Henry and nursing pioneer Mary Seacole." www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54344961 |
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 30, 2020 8:13:06 GMT
Unfunnily enough, Sir Lenny has a topical comedy gig on BBC R4 at the moment. The first one made me want to kick the radio it was so worthy and unfunny. Someone's clearly had a word and they've parachuted some writers in so that this week's offer was actually quite good in places.
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Post by mids on Sept 30, 2020 8:26:49 GMT
In what way was Mary Seacole a nursing pioneer? She was more of a landlady than anything.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 30, 2020 11:06:49 GMT
In what way is Lenny Henry a “comedian”?
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Post by rick49 on Sept 30, 2020 12:59:10 GMT
"When blacks talk of overthrowing institutional, structural, or systemic racism, they are not referring to traditional civil rights objectives such as anti-discrimination laws. They are talking about American culture in general. A recent statement from the National Museum of African American History criticized the undesirable traits of “whiteness” that oppress blacks: This compilation included objective, rational, linear thinking (the scientific method, more generally), rugged individualism, self-reliance, the intact nuclear family, a strong work ethic and delayed gratification, respect for authority, following time schedules, Christianity, planning for the future, English common law justice, property rights and being polite. (In response to criticism, the museum took down this list but did not disavow it.)"
so whites must eradicate their entire culture. now imagine the minority white or black populations in japan demanding japan and the japanese eliminate their culture and way of life. how far would those demands fly?
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Post by flatandy on Sept 30, 2020 13:06:29 GMT
Most peoples' - most Americans' - culture isn't entirely racist. If you personally have no elements in your culture that aren't racist then yes, you should throw out your entire culture.
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Post by mids on Sept 30, 2020 13:20:25 GMT
To say that these aren't also black traits is one of the most racist things I've read. A lot of white people don't have these traits either.
"This compilation included objective, rational, linear thinking (the scientific method, more generally), rugged individualism, self-reliance, the intact nuclear family, a strong work ethic and delayed gratification, respect for authority, following time schedules, Christianity, planning for the future, English common law justice, property rights and being polite. (In response to criticism, the museum took down this list but did not disavow it.)"
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 30, 2020 22:43:19 GMT
"When blacks talk of overthrowing institutional, structural, or systemic racism, they are not referring to traditional civil rights objectives such as anti-discrimination laws. They are talking about American culture in general. A recent statement from the National Museum of African American History criticized the undesirable traits of “whiteness” that oppress blacks: This compilation included objective, rational, linear thinking (the scientific method, more generally), rugged individualism, self-reliance, the intact nuclear family, a strong work ethic and delayed gratification, respect for authority, following time schedules, Christianity, planning for the future, English common law justice, property rights and being polite. (In response to criticism, the museum took down this list but did not disavow it.)" so whites must eradicate their entire culture. now imagine the minority white or black populations in japan demanding japan and the japanese eliminate their culture and way of life. how far would those demands fly? You already posted this a while back. |
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Post by rick49 on Oct 1, 2020 1:14:51 GMT
To say that these aren't also black traits is one of the most racist things I've read. A lot of white people don't have these traits either. "This compilation included objective, rational, linear thinking (the scientific method, more generally), rugged individualism, self-reliance, the intact nuclear family, a strong work ethic and delayed gratification, respect for authority, following time schedules, Christianity, planning for the future, English common law justice, property rights and being polite. (In response to criticism, the museum took down this list but did not disavow it.)" yup. it's saying black culture is anti-rational, anti-individualism, anti-self reliance, anti-family, anti-work, anti-planning for the future, on and on. good grief. |
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 1, 2020 5:07:43 GMT
To say that these aren't also black traits is one of the most racist things I've read. A lot of white people don't have these traits either. "This compilation included objective, rational, linear thinking (the scientific method, more generally), rugged individualism, self-reliance, the intact nuclear family, a strong work ethic and delayed gratification, respect for authority, following time schedules, Christianity, planning for the future, English common law justice, property rights and being polite. (In response to criticism, the museum took down this list but did not disavow it.)" yup. it's saying black culture is anti-rational, anti-individualism, anti-self reliance, anti-family, anti-work, anti-planning for the future, on and on. good grief. Family =\= nuclear family. |
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