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Post by Repat Van on Mar 10, 2023 11:10:05 GMT
Why can't these people control themselves? “ Police say the incident, at Rochester's Main Street Armory, may have been started by unfounded fears of gunfire.” You think fears of a shooter would lead to people leaving in a single file fashion ? It’s the USA. If I was in a public place and heard there was a mass shooter I would start running too.
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Post by mids on Mar 10, 2023 11:19:58 GMT
1. "may" <coughbullshitcough> 2. Yes. At every gig I've been at, in the event of some sort of emergency, the venue would have been calmly evacuated in Birkenhead drill fashion. Indeed, the men in the audience would have run towards the danger. That's just who we are.
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Post by ootlg on Mar 10, 2023 11:23:30 GMT
That's funny. 10/10
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Post by mids on Mar 10, 2023 11:27:09 GMT
It's always chicks that get killed in these "specialist music" gigs. Are the men just cowardly and selfish misogynists?
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 10, 2023 12:45:36 GMT
Haha, no, those are more traps than stalls. A stall has a fence or barrier to segment off a certain quantity of persons so that, should they stampede, there is a limit on the effect of that vibrancy on others.
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Post by ootlg on Mar 10, 2023 12:56:05 GMT
Nah, that's a crush.
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Post by mids on Mar 10, 2023 13:01:40 GMT
Maybe some sort of temporary individual restraining devices would help. I dunno, like a sort of shackle or something?
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Post by ootlg on Mar 10, 2023 13:03:42 GMT
Are they indentured though?
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 10, 2023 13:03:52 GMT
That's what we're trying to avoid. A crush is different. I'll thinking of a series of lateral barriers that limit the crowd to, say, 10 deep per section. I guess that you'd have to have some sort of gate at each end to stop 'em bolting out that way.
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Post by ootlg on Mar 10, 2023 13:21:44 GMT
Ah. Crowd barriers. Furry muff.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 10, 2023 13:39:40 GMT
While we're being a bit racist, there's another story in the news in the US. 4 Americans went to Mexico, got kidnapped, and two of them were killed. By a drug cartel. Who claim that it was a rogue part of the cartel who acted wrongly (and who handed over the kidnappers to the police). So far, it's possible. The story goes that these 4 people went to Mexico for cosmetic surgery. This is also possible. People travel to Mexico for all kinds of medical treatments because it's much more affordable. Then I look at the photos of the people involved (at this link, say: www.cnn.com/2023/03/07/americas/mexico-matamoros-us-citizens-kidnapping-tuesday/index.html ) and I have to say that the odds of them going to Mexico and getting shot by a drug cartel look pretty high, and much more likely associated with drug cartels than cosmetic surgery.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 10, 2023 13:48:41 GMT
Ah, yes. It did seem odd that it was a couple of couples.
Something didn't smell right about that story but, you trusted your latent prejudice, and now we have a much more plausible explanation.
Mind you, if you worked it out, how did they expect to get back across the border? Makes you wonder what was being implanted.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 10, 2023 14:15:41 GMT
I wonder if it's possible to make a cocaine gel and encapsulate it in a silicone breast implant.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 10, 2023 14:22:26 GMT
I think one of the women claimed she was going for a tummy tuck. Which might have been fair enough - but why would you take a second couple with you for that?
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 10, 2023 14:27:44 GMT
Well, I guess the innocent explanation could be that they were just making a road trip out of it. That's quite possible, but this is one of those occasions where the outcome makes you question a perfectly reasonable narrative.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 10, 2023 14:32:04 GMT
It's just about plausible that there'd be an innocent explanation. But my prejudices triggered when I saw the pics, and I don't think my prejudices are ridiculous here.
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Post by mids on Mar 10, 2023 14:43:58 GMT
Hang on, are we being racist against blacks or Hispanics? Or both?
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 10, 2023 14:43:59 GMT
Yeah, bearing that in mind, the story as told by various friends and associates sounds like a pack of lies.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 10, 2023 14:44:43 GMT
It will be interesting to see if any of the tour group have form.
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Post by ootlg on Mar 10, 2023 14:45:42 GMT
Your prejudices being? Seriously. For example, to me they fall very much within the stereotype of those who live within a drug culture. But this image has obviously been formed by the media.
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