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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 2, 2024 8:43:14 GMT
Very impressive, that Iron Dome arrangement. Not 100% effective, mind.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 2, 2024 8:44:22 GMT
Makes you wonder how many rockets they need to keep in stock. I imagine that the USAF airlift command are pretty busy.
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Post by mids on Oct 2, 2024 8:45:31 GMT
When were you not being serious...?
I've always thought that Iran could be a good country. It's got the resources, people, history, geography etc to be one but a cunty religion is holding it back.
That was to Van.
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Post by unclejunior on Oct 2, 2024 11:18:37 GMT
Well he starts with ….
“Red lines have been crossed, mostly by the Israelis.” Excuse me? I suppose this genius doesn’t consider any of the following WAR CRIMES to be crossing “red lines”: taking civilian hostages, including babies and the elderly; refusing to allow the Red Cross access to the hostages (not that they seem overly bothered); executing hostages; starving hostages, keeping them in inhuman conditions, and denying them medical care; the sadistic torture, rape and murder that left 1200 dead on October 7; incessantly targeting Israeli civilians with rocket attacks; using civilians as human shields; masquerading as civilians by not wearing uniforms; using schools, hospitals and mosques as military facilities, etc, etc. If Israel’s enemies are being “careful and rational” (or whatever that 🤡 said, I’d hate to see them when they aren’t.”
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Post by flatandy on Oct 2, 2024 13:04:53 GMT
So, the Iranian attack killed one person - ironically a Palestinian - while tens of thousands of Gazans are dead and probably thousands of Lebanese.
Anthony Blinken tells us what an outrage the former is, how the international community must condemn the former, yet says not a word about the latter, about 9/11 style flattening of tower blocks by the Israelis in Lebanon.
The BBC is once again bigging up the ineffectual attack on Israel while almost ignoring the massacre of Lebanese non-combatants.
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Post by mids on Oct 2, 2024 13:23:01 GMT
It's always the same. Iran does a mincing, limp-wristed attack and Israel responds with robust yet compassionate manliness.
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 2, 2024 15:47:11 GMT
So, the Iranian attack killed one person - ironically a Palestinian - while tens of thousands of Gazans are dead and probably thousands of Lebanese. Anthony Blinken tells us what an outrage the former is, how the international community must condemn the former, yet says not a word about the latter, about 9/11 style flattening of tower blocks by the Israelis in Lebanon. The BBC is once again bigging up the ineffectual attack on Israel while almost ignoring the massacre of Lebanese non-combatants. More BBC pro-Israel bias. |
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 2, 2024 15:48:54 GMT
Well he starts with …. “Red lines have been crossed, mostly by the Israelis.” Excuse me? I suppose this genius doesn’t consider any of the following WAR CRIMES to be crossing “red lines”: taking civilian hostages, including babies and the elderly; refusing to allow the Red Cross access to the hostages (not that they seem overly bothered); executing hostages; starving hostages, keeping them in inhuman conditions, and denying them medical care; the sadistic torture, rape and murder that left 1200 dead on October 7; incessantly targeting Israeli civilians with rocket attacks; using civilians as human shields; masquerading as civilians by not wearing uniforms; using schools, hospitals and mosques as military facilities, etc, etc. If Israel’s enemies are being “careful and rational” (or whatever that 🤡 said, I’d hate to see them when they aren’t.” Well if the Israelis have killed 10s of thousands of men, women and children, and flattered entire neighbourhoods, while the other sides have not…..it appears accurate to call it “Red lines have been crossed”. Everything you gave mentioned about the hostages applies 10 fold to Israel. They have also killed the elderly and children and denied passage to aid organisations while killing reps from some. Why do Israeli hostages count more than Palestinian and Lebanese civilians? But where is the anti-semitism? No mention of Jewish people in your excerpt. |
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Post by voice on Oct 2, 2024 16:05:36 GMT
It's cos of the successful framing by the Israeli government of any criticism of their actions being antisemitism, made easier by the far rights hatred of Muslims, aided by UJ being a bit thick.
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Post by mids on Oct 2, 2024 16:34:41 GMT
It's hilarious watching racists objecting to being called racist.
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Post by marechal on Oct 2, 2024 17:06:29 GMT
I'll grant you that Israel has been heavy-handed in its response.
That said, I don't think anyone should expect peace and happiness if you elect a terrorist organization to run your government. War with Israel is basically their whole platform.
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Post by mids on Oct 2, 2024 17:25:38 GMT
Remember when Beirut was the Paris of the Middle East? Oh hang on, it still is.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 2, 2024 17:31:27 GMT
Remember when Paris was the Paris of France?
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 2, 2024 17:32:13 GMT
I'll grant you that Israel has been heavy-handed in its response. That said, I don't think anyone should expect peace and happiness if you elect a terrorist organization to run your government. What, like The Irgun? |
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Post by marechal on Oct 2, 2024 17:55:05 GMT
They were elected?
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 2, 2024 19:14:12 GMT
Yeah, eventually. After they'd murdered enough British conscripts.
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 2, 2024 19:38:51 GMT
I'll grant you that Israel has been heavy-handed in its response. That said, I don't think anyone should expect peace and happiness if you elect a terrorist organization to run your government. War with Israel is basically their whole platform. No. I fully expect that Israel will seek retribution but also acknowledge this situation started significantly before October 2023 (those European colonial mischief making till haunts us til today). It’s just weird when people are so passionately upset at dead children and elderly when they are hostages but very chill with thousands of dead elderly and children when they are civilians. (Or even Israel taking Palestinian children and elderly hostages in the form of “prisoners”). And then to accuse those who are concerned about both of “bias” is doubly odd. (I also don’t think the election sutuation with Hamas in Gaza is as simplistic as you have laid out.) slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/was-hamas-elected-to-govern-gaza-george-w-bush-2006-palestinian-election.html |
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 2, 2024 19:42:07 GMT
It's hilarious watching racists objecting to being called racist. This from the man who said he is a proud racist and xenophobe? NURSE! |
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Post by Repat Van on Oct 2, 2024 19:42:45 GMT
It's cos of the successful framing by the Israeli government of any criticism of their actions being antisemitism, made easier by the far rights hatred of Muslims, aided by UJ being a bit thick. It’s weird. It seems like a very simple question but they cannot seem to point out where the anti-semitism is. |
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Post by flatandy on Oct 2, 2024 19:54:37 GMT
I'll grant you that Israel has been heavy-handed in its response. That said, I don't think anyone should expect peace and happiness if you elect a terrorist organization to run your government. War with Israel is basically their whole platform. Sorry, but apart from Likud, which terrorist organizations have been elected? You could make a case in Iran, perhaps, but that’s not a free election |
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